PMDG 737NGXu First Impressions and Review!

[David Roch 1,982]

Yes, I've uninstalled the NGX right after installing the NGXu but I don't believe it makes any difference.

What might make a difference is the view from the VC. Using EZCA my main cockpit view doesn't display the EFB moving map as you can see.

Edited November 20, 2019 by David Roch

[pete_auau 1,158]

not  experience  performance  issues  at all  with both  ngx  and  ngxu installed,  don't  think  it  makes  any difference if  you have  or  not, using  chase  plane   and  have  the  efb  using  the  vc  mode

[starter 8]

I saw pmdg brought out an update

 

Best regards

[Sethos 4,335]

Here's the changelog;

PMDG 737 NGX Lifecycle Maintenance - BUILD 9961 (Released 2019-11-19) [ View Issues ]
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- 0008188: [External Model - Geometry] Inboard Leading Edge flaps animation missing a piece. (jbrown) - resolved.
- 0008142: [Systems - Hydraulic] Alt steering switch does not adjust position when switch guard is closed. (hvanrensburg) - resolved.
- 0008179: [EFB - General] Extraneous word that is not needed in EFB title (hvanrensburg) - resolved.
- 0008176: [Virtual Cockpit - Functionality/Click-Spots] EFB brigntess button positions are swapped. (hvanrensburg) - resolved.
- 0008166: [External Model - Geometry] 900SSW wing flex animation breaks and becomes disjointed. (jbrown) - resolved.
- 0008155: [Virtual Cockpit - Functionality/Click-Spots] Start switches animation needs tweaking to correctly show motion in/out as appropriate. (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008127: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Parking Brake light illuminates during parking brake set. (abashkatov) - resolved.
- 0008216: [External Model - Geometry] Nose wheel buries itself upon max braking use (jbrown) - resolved.
- 0008199: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] SELCAL placard should always be displayed (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008174: [Systems - General/Not Sure] NW Steering Tiller moves in flight (hvanrensburg) - resolved.
- 0008211: [Systems - Electrical] External Power breaker closes erroneously if switch is moved prior to battery-on. (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
- 0008204: [External Model - Geometry] Gear door texture mirrored (jbrown) - resolved.
- 0008205: [External Model - Geometry] Nose radome mesh issue (jbrown) - resolved.
- 0008206: [External Model - Geometry] Paint kit issue (jbrown) - resolved.
- 0008200: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Blue on artificial horizon too bright so it's hard to read white markings (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008180: [External Model - Geometry] Paint kit issue (jbrown) - resolved.
- 0008187: [External Model - Geometry] PCA hose does not connect into the correct spot. (hvanrensburg) - resolved.
- 0008126: [General - Engines] Flight Idle Not Decreasing with TAI Switched Off above 15500 (emvaos) - resolved.
- 0008186: [External Model - Geometry] Touch down smoke missing from NGXu (jbrown) - resolved.
- 0008175: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Light bleed at windows (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008171: [External Model - Liveries] Paint Kit texture issue (jbrown) - resolved.
- 0008183: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Cargo fire test two FWD cargo (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008124: [Systems - Wheels & Brakes] Landing Gear control valve needs tuning. (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
- 0008158: [EFB - General] North Up EFB Airport Map extremely high range with add on airports protection (emvaos) - resolved.
- 0008132: [Systems - Hydraulic] EMDP A overheat, overheats Both (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
- 0008165: [External Model - Geometry] Flap geometry adjustment (jbrown) - resolved.
- 0008156: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Honeywell Altitude digits (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0007842: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Display unit reflectivity can cause excessive sun glare at particular angles (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008164: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] ELectrical Panel small errors (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008154: [Systems - Fire Protection] Cargo Compartment Fire Protection fault with AFT detection (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0007906: [General - Ground Operations] Auto Ground OPS disconnetcts GPU (hvanrensburg) - resolved.
- 0008152: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] COMM3 missing dzu fasteners (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008150: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Text missing from overhead: "GEN" is missing from "GEN 1" on upper overhead (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008137: [External Model - Geometry] Descriptions Performance Fields in aircraft.cfg (jbrown) - resolved.
- 0008147: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Switch cushions on overhead should flare out at the tip (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008148: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Some of the overhead switch bases are the wrong style (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008149: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Overhead textures are dark (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008146: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Blue annunciators on overhead need to be color corrected (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008143: [Virtual Cockpit - Functionality/Click-Spots] The Fuel Cuttoff's should only illuminate on a fire test. Not on a normal Light Test. (hvanrensburg) - resolved.
- 0008057: [Systems - Pneumatic] Bleed and Packs on TO and GA N1 limit dependency [only checks switches not system operation] (emvaos) - resolved.
- 0008141: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] RMI guage glass not correctly lined up with bezel (vscimone) - resolved.
- 0008093: [Main Panel - Standby Gauges] Analogue speed backup shows TAS (abashkatov) - resolved.
- 0007881: [FMS - Performance Pages] Lateral RNP manual entry in FMS can only accept tenths (emvaos) - closed.
- OTHER00: numerous rendering changes, model updates to reduce draw calls and improve performance.
[43 issues]

[Kilo60 660]

Wow nice list!

 

Looks like they are hard at work fixing bugs!!!

[Shomron 251]

Can anyone comment on the sounds? Are they at the level we won't need to enhance them by using another add-on (like immersive audio I found oustanding)?

[Swe_Richard 1,172]

Just now, Shomron said:

Can anyone comment on the sounds? Are they at the level we won't need to enhance them by using another add-on (like immersive audio I found oustanding)?

I really like the sounds in the aircraft. Granted, I have no experience flying the real thing but I think the NGXus sound is better than the NGX. 

[threexgreen 3,139]

3 minutes ago, Shomron said:

Can anyone comment on the sounds? Are they at the level we won't need to enhance them by using another add-on (like immersive audio I found oustanding)?

What Richard said. I own Immersive Audio for the NGX and I think the new sounds in the NGXu are even better and more immersive.

[Shomron 251]

Just now, threegreen said:

What Richard said. I own Immersive Audio for the NGX and I think the new sounds in the NGXu are even better and more immersive.

Great to hear, looks like worth upgrading

[Sethos 4,335]

Saw this posted on Reddit. Cool little detail, the elevators moving from the engine thrust; https://streamable.com/rrf7w

[Michael Moe 495]

i havent seen a performance boost with 9961 so will try a complete reinstall.

Any one got the VR CDUII up and running with this ? (alter the .panel.cfg? a copy of information inside panel.cfg from NGX doesnt work)

Thanks

Michael Moe

[Swe_Richard 1,172]

Well. I am unsure if the newest patch made any difference for me. Maybe slightly better performance. Compared it with the old NGX today:

Pushing back from terminal 1 at ORBx ESSA in the NGXu: Struggling to keep FPS over 20.

Pushing back from the same terminal in the NGX: 40-50 FPS and buttery smooth.

Giving up on the NGXu now. Hope it'll work better in the next sim.

 

[Michael Moe 495]

34 minutes ago, Swe_Richard said:

Well. I am unsure if the newest patch made any difference for me. Maybe slightly better performance. Compared it with the old NGX today:

Pushing back from terminal 1 at ORBx ESSA in the NGXu: Struggling to keep FPS over 20.

Pushing back from the same terminal in the NGX: 40-50 FPS and buttery smooth.

Giving up on the NGXu now. Hope it'll work better in the next sim.

 

What gate?  I will test tomorrow night.. 

Please share more related settings 

Michael Moe 

[Swe_Richard 1,172]

15 hours ago, Michael Moe said:

What gate?  I will test tomorrow night.. 

Please share more related settings 

Michael Moe 

Correction: It was from Gate 1 I pushed back. Night. Further I was using the following Add ons:

1. AS (latest version. Weather was clear)

2. Environment Force

3. UTLive with traffic quite low.

Comp: 6700K at 4.7 32GB Ram 1080 Ti.

[OzWhitey 3,353]

Has anyone who claims not to have performance issues actually tried a frame rate comparison with the NGX?

• Rob A got a 20% reduction (I think - either compared with the NGX or the 747). Lots of other people report a reduction in frame rates, though most haven't reported a percentage comparison.
• Robert Randazzo says its easy on frames.
• Kyle says that it's obviously not going to be good on frames because there's lots of raindrops on the window and dynamic lights and an EFB, duh!

Having read all the threads, I suspect that it drops the frame rates by about 20% on average compared with the NGX. And the people who claim no performance impact do so because they had sufficient overhead to be able to comfortably lose this number of frames.

But - would be very interested in anyone with data showing that their frame rates are the same or better with the Xu in a comparison with no other variable changes.

Edited November 21, 2019 by OzWhitey