I'm not buying the sim unless the air hostess offers chicken or beef when pushing the trolly.

Not entirely on subject, but you know this, right? The full real life experience at home... 🤣

I love watching wingview replays after I land and taxi to the gate. Especially in VR. Most payware are nice enough to include the wings just for that purpose.

As for the entire cabin - rest assured there will be payware developers that cater to your needs. Captain Sim being the most obvious.

Dave,

Can you include passengers directly in front of me reclining their seats, so that I can use the virtual shotgun stowed in the overhead locker? Cheers! 🤣

Edited May 23, 20206 yr by Christopher Low

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

Dave,

Can you include passengers directly in front of me reclining their seats, so that I can use the virtual shotgun stowed in the overhead locker? Cheers! 🤣

Like this video?

 

 

That guy is darned lucky I wasn't in the seat in front of him.  I'd have whooped his butt (really, really good) and happily gone to jail for it.

 

8 hours ago, MaVe64 said:

What about crying Babys and screaming children? That should be in MFS too.

And people kicking the back of your seat or complaining and making nasty comments if you don't have your seat all the way upright.

Edit:  I see it was already covered on the second page. 😄 

Hook

Edited May 23, 20206 yr by LHookins

On 5/23/2020 at 10:23 AM, LHookins said:

And people kicking the back of your seat or complaining and making nasty comments if you don't have your seat all the way upright.

Edit:  I see it was already covered on the second page. 😄 

Hook

LOL. Even though I am  retired military, a former steely eyed killer from the deep and military anti-terrorism, HRT guy, I can't condone violence on aircraft, well, unless I'm doing it.

All meant in jest.

 

On 5/22/2020 at 4:22 PM, badderjet said:

Not buying unless the toilets flush. j/k 🤣

On a more serious note, we've all seen operative external doors. I personally don't care about cabins at all, why would I. But to each his own.

😄

It's nice though for enjoying a wing view and making screenshots.

On 5/22/2020 at 3:19 PM, DaveCT2003 said:

Not to over use the word in this thread, but PERSONALLY... I can't wait for a Passenger Simulator.  In fact, that's IT!. I'm tired of waiting, and I've allocated resources towards developing one myself.

Now, mind you, you won't be able to visit the flight deck - and why would you?  I mean, it's a "passenger" simulator after all, not a pilot or (another over used term) Flight Simulator.

Not to worry though, we're planning to model plenty of features so you won't mind not being able to visit the flight deck.  Just some of the features are:

1. Start at the cabin door or in your seat,

2. Have to located space for your own carry somewhere in the cabin,

3. Simulation stops and shifts to a pursuit in GTA (sold separately) if you remove your your seat belt or get up from  your seat when the Seat Belt Sign is illuminated.

4. Your choice in cabin crews... Stewards/Stewardess or Flight Attendants.

5. Working window shades

6. Ability to watch movies on very small screens.

7. Order select items from the menu, which will appear so long as you have your seat tray down.

8. Of course, animated seat trays.

9. A working map in the display directly in front of  you

Hoping that Bryan at FS2Crew will step in and provide passengers with attitudes, putting their hair over the heat, and putting their stinky feet everywhere they shouldn't be.

People who enjoy flying long hauls will love this one.

 

It used to be that people wanted realism based flight decks, handling characteristics, NavData, moving maps, EFBs, shared cockpit, animated ground crew and vehicles.  Guess we filled up all the good wishes, so the cabin is all we have left.

 

This is (of course) meant as tongue-n-cheek, though I will say that after 40 years in this hobby I will never understand the "I wanna see a cabin thing", and I never will.

 

 

Would you get XP for being one of those knobs who sprints from the back of the plane to the exit, bypassing rows and rows of patient, but irritated passengers?  (Apologies to those legitimately trying to make connecting flights.)

Surely I can't be the only one who sits down at a random passenger seat in the cabin and pilots the plane from there?

Some of the other sims that are better optimized (XP11, AFS2, MSFS) can model the entire cabin in decent detail and still manage a healthy fps, VRAM, etc.. In XP11, the narrow bodies (zibo 737, FF 320) have beautiful cabins and with the immersive fmod sounds, it is breathtaking sitting at the rear cabin and enjoying the wing views and the sounds.. you can switch between the VC and the wing view and the textures load in an instant.. absolutely no lag at all.. again, because of the more optimized engine..  AFS2 or MSFS may be even more optimized and have even more headroom to throw in a cabin if they wanted to.. 

I wont be surprised if MSFS had their defaullt 747-8 with a cool 3 cabin layout.. the modern sims can accommodate that without an fps hit..  

It's not fair to dismiss this by saying "why do u want to spend time in the cabin?"..  during cruise, just take a walk from the front to the back and enjoy how the soundscape changes..  if the sim has the headroom, why not? 

I used to wonder "why do we need PBR for airports?".. but after seeing T2G VHHH in PBR, i'm blown away and wish all my other airports were in PBR too.. I still wonder why some devs waste resources on modeling terminal interiors.. but if there is headroom why not? I flew into LAX in AFS2 at 100+fps with everything on ultra.. so it is possible.. 

 

It's all about immersion. Knowing that you've got a cabin behind you - preferably with pax - is great for this. Zibo is currently the best in this regard, I miss the feature when flying PMDG/Maddog, even if I rarely use it in practice.

It's a lot more realistic to go for a walk back through the cabin during cruise, rather than flying along outside your aircraft!

A cabin would be awesome and I agree that Zibo does this best. If theres one thing X-Plane 11 does so well its wooshing from one viewpoint to another without skipping a beat. The easy to set up views + hotkey transitions are awesome. The FMOD sounds from the cabin are great and IMO the Zibo has the best CFM56 sounds in the flight sim world. Hope FS2020 can implement something like this as well. 

Perhaps the A320 NEO already has this but they have not shown in it any videos yet 😊

2 hours ago, OzWhitey said:

It's all about immersion. Knowing that you've got a cabin behind you - preferably with pax - is great for this. Zibo is currently the best in this regard, I miss the feature when flying PMDG/Maddog, even if I rarely use it in practice.

It's a lot more realistic to go for a walk back through the cabin during cruise, rather than flying along outside your aircraft!

So a detailed cabin is an absolutely necessary feature that isn't used very often. I am lost.

"Immersion" and "realism": the 2 code names to divert developer ressources into the eye-candy black hole.

Yesterday was the water droplets on the windshield, then the tree size and runway slope, now the cabin is resurfacing. I can see an add-on market for cabin interiors (business, economy, premium, first.. ) along with the corresponding catering and entertainment.

I wish some members of the community could see how hideous visuals in a level-D simulator can be: from the box buildings at the airports to literally the A340-ish UFOs you encounter during TCAS events. It seems that the authorities aren't that concerned with those details.

9 minutes ago, GearUp180 said:

So a detailed cabin is an absolutely necessary feature that isn't used very often. I am lost.

You are lost because you are making up statements that I didn't say. 

If it was "absolutely necessary", I wouldn't spend 95%+ of my time flying in aircraft without a cabin.

Strawman arguments aside, if you want hideous visuals then good for you, but I don't think MSFS 2020 is your sim.