I hope there is no need for band aid addons - for example, fix the time, now fix the sky, moon, clouds, omg - freaking annoying.  

Just to get P3D look good, so much has to be installed.  It gets annoying plain and simple.  

I totally agree. It became so tiring with FSX. Specially with scenery packs. Pacific Northwest, Rocky Mountains, Alaska, each one its own separate addon. Then the constant search for nice clouds, terrain, mesh etc. Will be nice to have all the goodies built into the core sim.

Having said that this is the flight sim scene - there will ALWAYS be room for addons and as time progresses the devs out there will be looking very closely at what they can make better. Two of the most obvious are complex airplanes and high detail airports (like what Orbx does). As we now know only a small chunk of airports in the new sim are human-designed using real world data the rest are generic and its the latter the devs will be looking at. 

Exactly, this is what ruins the experience for me personally. I remember the following add-ons I purchased and installed back in the early days of FSX and Prepar3D. The amount of add-ons kept on growing and it became ridiculous. As far as I can remember these were the ones I had:

1. Orbx Global Base
2. Orbx Vector
3. OrbX TreesHD
4. OrbX Buildings HD
5. REX Airports HD
6. REX Textures
7. ActiveSky
8. Globalship AI
9. MyTraffic 6
10. Aivlasoft EFB
11. PDF Kneeboard
12. Global Mesh
13. PFPX
14. Topcat
15. ChasePlane/EZCA
16. Stars Mod
17. Moon Replacement
18. OrbX Regions
19. ActiveSky Cloudart
20. Envtex
21. PTA
22. FS2Crew
23. GSX
24. AI Cull
25. AI Flow
26. AI Ground
27. Pro-ATC
28. FSUIPC

I may be missing a few more that I can't remember off the top of my heard, but that's nearly 30 addons!

Edited July 15, 20205 yr by captain420

Use a sim with a home cockpit and you only need just few terrain addon and will never look back

23 hours ago, flyinpilot212121 said:

Doesn’t mean it will be up too the third party developers Standards. It may be a good base, but Do we really know if it will replace the standards that we are accustomed too?

p.s I’m not a tester, I’ve never used the program so I have no idea, just playing devils advocate.....No question About it I will be purchasing it though.

When you first run it you had better wear glasses! In case your eyes fall out🤪

13 hours ago, N11369 said:

I believe I heard through a many forums (can't remember which one), that their will be Texas airports but not as detailed say like KLAX or KJFK.  

It would be safe to say that with few exceptions, if an airport exists in the real world, it will be present in MSFS. It is true that no major airports in Texas got the “custom payware quality treatment” like KJFK or KSFO, but that does not mean that the default airports that do exist will not be perfectly serviceable. It certainly will not be like X-Plane was a few years ago, where most default airports were just runways, with completely incorrect generic taxiways, and no buildings.

7 hours ago, captain420 said:

Exactly, this is what ruins the experience for me personally. I remember the following add-ons I purchased and installed back in the early days of FSX and Prepar3D. The amount of add-ons kept on growing and it became ridiculous. As far as I can remember these were the ones I had:

I actually don't mind having that many addons, what i mind, is having to go to that many add ons websites to purchase, download, look for updates, install, reinstall, etc.  Simmarket is just embarrassing.

Everyone certainly wants a better default experience than the minecraft world that is out of box P3D.  The whole way of doing business was/is exhausting for me.  The issue isn't the financial side because I genuinely feel I can pick and choose what I want in my sim, although, P3D base was a little too bare bones.  You really had to go in at about $500 and it was still underwhelming.  I feel by the time I have spent $500 in MSFS I'll be flying an amazing modern simulator.

I hope Asobo really learns how to build amazing aircraft and they release a few study level over the years, but I am not going to hang my hat on it.  Probably our only chance at an A350 or A380.  PMDG seems to be only about updating their core models and not expanding and same with FSLABS. 

It's going to be different, but I don't see it being cheaper for enthusiasts.  I do believe the core sim will have more to offer.

What I'll be hoping for is an easier way to integrate landscape and building add-ons (if I decide I need them) as has been the case with FS9 and FSX. For the casual simmer, it has always been frustrating trying to work out what level one add-on has to be compared to others so that they display properly. I wouldn't be sorry to see the back of that.

Capitalism would find a way to add value and we would be willing to pay to get them.

Without PMDG's air crafts, I cannot give up my P3D.

4 minutes ago, Manny said:

Without PMDG's air crafts, I cannot give up my P3D.

Well, they have already said it will be available in MSFS2020. So you'll only have to re-buy it for the 15th time. 

I'll be happy with the Premium Deluxe. I'll have my King Air, Bonanza, TBM, Baron and 172. Eventually I may need a Piper Malibu in there.

Edited July 16, 20205 yr by MichiGanderFlyer

It's either Standard, Deluxe OR Premium. Pick one.

 

Edited July 16, 20205 yr by n4gix
Correct my error!

2 minutes ago, n4gix said:

It's either Standard, Deluxe OR Premium. Pick one.

It’s technically Standard, Deluxe, or Premium Deluxe per the website. Michi isn’t wrong. https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/p/microsoft-flight-simulator-premium-deluxe-preorder/9pmdbl7963ld?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

Edited July 16, 20205 yr by FlyingInACessna

Ugh! Mea Maxima Culpa! I was so wrong... 😞

It does seem redundant though...