August 17, 20205 yr In terms of simulation itself such as aircraft behaviour, movement, delay, response, physics, etc...., is MSFS2020 even better simulation software than those that are used by airlines in their training facilities? Or to be more precise, when we see those simulators that airlines use for training of pilots (I do not know how they are called), what software are they running? Do they run FSX, P3D, or are they going to run MSFS2020? Thanks.
August 17, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, IgorBR said: when we see those simulators that airlines use for training of pilots (I do not know how they are called), what software are they running? AFAIK they use specialised/in-house software (not FSX etc) Matthew S
August 17, 20205 yr MSFS is licensed as an entertainment product, unlike P3D & other 'Not for entertainment' products/simulators. P3D is used by proper sim training companies such as RedBird & Frasca. So, no! MSFS is licensed as a game. Professional training sims are far better & normally dedicated & made for a single aircraft type, also with 6 deg of movement set up prodeedurally. Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
August 17, 20205 yr No, not even close. MSFS, XP, P3D are designed to simulate a wide variety of aircraft. They work with approximations which are more than sufficient for a home simulator (or in some cases even to log hours), but they cannot compete with a Level D simulator for airliner training. Those work with very accurate data including actual test flight data from that specific aircraft type. It's very specific and detailed but less flexible. Edited August 17, 20205 yr by tweekz Happy with MSFS 🙂 home simming evolved
August 17, 20205 yr Think of all the money the airlines can save 20 PC`s they can train pilots for peanuts instead of million pound simulators, i don`t think so. Raymond Fry.
August 17, 20205 yr 22 minutes ago, Wobbie said: MSFS is licensed as an entertainment product, unlike P3D & other 'Not for entertainment' products/simulators. BTW, can you show me a link to the MSFS EULA? I know where to find the P3D EULA, but didn't find the MSFS EULA yet. Thanks and kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
August 17, 20205 yr From today on MSFS will become one of the best flight simulations i am very sure of that, especially for GA, the Flight physics alone are years ahead. Just wait and see what third party will offer in the comming months/years Edited August 17, 20205 yr by Nedo68
August 17, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Nedo68 said: From today on MSFS will become one of the best flight simulations i am very sure of that, especially for GA, the Flight physics alone is years ahead. Not for helicopters, sailplanes, jet fighters and hot air balloons. At least not yet. P3D45, 8700K, RTX3080Ti, 32 GB, HDD 3 + 6 TB, SSD 0.5 TB Warthog HOTAS, Honeycomb Bravo, MFG pedals, Reverb G2
August 17, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, dilore said: Not for helicopters, sailplanes, jet fighters and hot air balloons. At least not yet. just wait, Helis are under way... a "Multiple Aircraft simulator" think about it, is different to just a dedicated simulator for one specific airplane. Edited August 17, 20205 yr by Nedo68
August 17, 20205 yr Yes. Regards bs AMD RYZEN 9 5900X 12 CORE CPU - ZOTAC RTX 3060Ti GPU - NZXT H510i ELITE CASE - EVO M.2 970 500GB DRIVE - 32GB XTREEM 4000 MEM - XPG GOLD 80+ 650 WATT PS - NZXT 280 HYBRID COOLER
August 17, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, IgorBR said: In terms of simulation itself such as aircraft behaviour, movement, delay, response, physics, etc...., is MSFS2020 even better simulation software than those that are used by airlines in their training facilities? Or to be more precise, when we see those simulators that airlines use for training of pilots (I do not know how they are called), what software are they running? Do they run FSX, P3D, or are they going to run MSFS2020? Thanks. No way. It’s a good flight game. But it doesn’t have a high fidelity aircraft module at the moment. When it does, we’ll see what can do. Flight models in default are ok, not brilliant. Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
August 17, 20205 yr It's the best overall simulator we will have in a long, long time. Initial teething issues aside. For the common user who is not a quallified pilot (and even for some who are) it is the closest you will ever come to being in a real aircraft without a level D sim. Flight models aside, it's the immersion that takes it a few notches up. Once the SDK is matured and the likes of PMDG come aboard, it will be the best civilian sim available, without exception. Edited August 17, 20205 yr by ErichB
August 17, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, archipelago said: prettiest - yes best - no Mainly this. Maybe some day, but not yet.
August 18, 20205 yr Author 10 hours ago, OzWhitey said: No way. It’s a good flight game. But it doesn’t have a high fidelity aircraft module at the moment. When it does, we’ll see what can do. Flight models in default are ok, not brilliant. So when PMDG makes a model for MSFS2020, you will say that is is very very very good?
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