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V4 to V5 Upgrade Considerations

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After spending a few days with MSFS2020 I'm giving consideration to upgrading my P3D 4.5 to 5 while I await the maturing of the new platform.

I'm listing out what the true cost and true hassle factors are going to be to see if I want to do this for what might be only a few quarters (or not.) Anyway, I started with ORBX, of which I have a large bucketload installed for V4.5.

After spending some time reading their forums and support I believe I am getting a better idea of what it will involve. I'm looking to see if my conclusions are valid. It would appear I would have to buy another copy of ORBX Vector, but all my other sceneries that are, as of this writting, V5 compatible (many airports still are not after 4 months) should work. I read the process to move the complatible scneries over. Looks to be time consuming but not too difficult.

I read a few support inquiries involving numerous folks who are having up to 10 minute reading delays getting their new Vectors data read by P3D after making a flight plan and before takeoff. ORBX supports only suggestion, from what I could see, is to disable vectors before making a flight plan, then reenabling it EACH time you wish to fly. No hope of a solution to the glitch seems to be forthcoming. Seems a bit clueggy.

Gives me pause, but I do want to see if my perceptions of this process and state of affairs are valid. Appreciate any thoughts.

Thanks!

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I would start without Vector.  V5 has updated terrain data and Vector IMHO is not actually required.  Your other Orbx data can be transferred to V5 at no cost.

Bert

It's been almost 2 months since HF2 for v5 dropped. I can't see it being that much longer before a full new version 5.1 is out. Do like I am and wait for that to avoid having to do reinstalls. 

Eric 

 

 

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Thanks Bert, Thanks Eric. Great advise. It's great to come here and get sound advise from those who have blazed the trail already. 😃

I have a list of add-ons to go through. No rush. I might be back with additional inquires. Appreciate the thoughtful assistance!

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What about the video cards RAM issue and need for more video memory?. I somewhat understood 8 GB video memory will still not be enough.

This is one of the issues that have prevented me to move to v5. The others are mostly compatibility and functional issues like the ones mentioned in the OP.

Meanwhile I’m enjoying v4.5 very much.

Cheers, Ed

Cheers, Ed

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4 minutes ago, edpatino said:

What about the video cards RAM issue and need for more video memory?. I somewhat understood 8 GB video memory will still not be enough.

This is one of the issues that have prevented me to move to v5. The others are mostly compatibility and functional issues like the ones mentioned in the OP.

Meanwhile I’m enjoying v4.5 very much.

Cheers, Ed

you should be fine with 8GB VRAM at 1080P.  

5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW  and 2  22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU,  360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next

2 hours ago, micstatic said:

you should be fine with 8GB VRAM at 1080P.  

11GB would be sufficient for a 1080ti on 4K? Sliders mostly to the right....

Shom

 

MSFS2024 running on Win 11, 4K screen, Z790 AORUS ELITE AX-W, i9-14900K, MSI 3080Ti, Corsair 2x32GB 6000 MHz, 1+2TB M.2 NVMEs

38 minutes ago, Shomron said:

11GB would be sufficient for a 1080ti on 4K? Sliders mostly to the right....

It is!! more than enough.

There are some airports which have 4k textures and PBR (LatinVFR KMIA-LEMD-KFLL, FlyTampa KLAS just to name a few) than can easily reach 10GB limit. Those developers have "lite texture" version which are shared on their forums.

Other than it is a great Sim

Ramon De Valencia

AMD 9950X3D / 64GB DDR5 6000MHz / RTX 5090 / 1200 watt PSU

MSFS 2020 and 2024

Since the latest hot fix along with windows2004 update I have flown the Leonardo Maddog full PBR cockpit in and out of the LVFR KMIA with no problems with my GTX1070 8GB. I haven't had an issue since with any addon airports with PMDG/ Leonardo planes. I use Active Sky for weather ENVTEX, and all the ORBX Global regions with V5 Vector. Most of my sliders about 3/4 to the right. I have spent precious little on upgrades like FUSIPC6 and FFTF because most of the addons I use have been free upgrades. Perhaps I'm wrong but I don't think Vector was an upgrade fee. Have to do a memory check on that one. For me P3DV5 has been a worth while up grade with smoother performance and just seems to look better in undefinable ways. This is one reason the new sim has failed to draw much attention from me and please I didn't say that to start another silly sim vs.sim spat.

I'll close by saying I was a disappointed customer when V5 was first released and even put in for a refund the first week but changed my mind and I'm glad I did because it is at a fine state now. I'm sure I'll be using it for a long time to come. 

Vic green

Since the latest hot fix along with windows2004 update I have flown the Leonardo Maddog full PBR cockpit in and out of the LVFR KMIA with no problems with my GTX1070 8GB. I haven't had an issue since with any addon airports with PMDG/ Leonardo planes. I use Active Sky for weather ENVTEX, and all the ORBX Global regions with V5 Vector. Most of my sliders about 3/4 to the right. I have spent precious little on upgrades like FUSIPC6 and FFTF because most of the addons I use have been free upgrades. Perhaps I'm wrong but I don't think Vector was an upgrade fee. Have to do a memory check on that one. For me P3DV5 has been a worth while up grade with smoother performance and just seems to look better in undefinable ways. This is one reason the new sim has failed to draw much attention from me and please I didn't say that to start another silly sim vs.sim spat.

I'll close by saying I was a disappointed customer when V5 was first released and even put in for a refund the first week but changed my mind and I'm glad I did because it is at a fine state now. I'm sure I'll be using it for a long time to come. 

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Vic green

Moderator, please cancel the above double post. 

Vic green

Version 4.5 still works great for me.  Very stable and runs on Windows 7-a real plus. Using Orbx True Earth and their airports.  Don't need any other Orbx stuff with True Earth.  I also drive a 2007 car without all the bells and whistles--who needs TV screens. 😉

Forever indebted to the late Michael Greenblatt of FSGS.

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, vp49p3 said:

I also drive a 2007 car without all the bells and whistles--who needs TV screens. 😉

👍

Vic green

17 minutes ago, vp49p3 said:

Version 4.5 still works great for me.  Very stable and runs on Windows 7-a real plus. Using Orbx True Earth and their airports.  Don't need any other Orbx stuff with True Earth.  I also drive a 2007 car without all the bells and whistles--who needs TV screens. 😉

Hf2 or 3?

im thinking I might revert back possibly.

mike

5 hours ago, edpatino said:

Meanwhile I’m enjoying v4.5 very much.

I'm doing the same until v5.x is baked in a bit more.

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