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New Aircraft M20R Released

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38 minutes ago, Sartori23 said:

You're looking at the wrong setting on the FT-101A. If you look at the fuel flow gauge just below the glare shield (top left number), you'll see the fuel flow is working correctly. I'm not familiar with the FT-101A fuel computer, but if you turn the large knob two clicks counterclockwise, it will show the actual fuel flow.

 

You are right. There is manual for FT-101A, but it doesn't shed much light frankly

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I did some digging, and it's not an FT-101A (as listed in the POH) it's a Shadin 912041T. No wonder the T-101A manual didn't make any sense.

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2 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

You are right ...

Would you like to make another test flight using top left FF gauge? You are real pilot with the real Mooney experience and your opinion very important for the correct product quality evaluation!

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1 minute ago, OSM said:

Would you like to make another test flight using top left FF gauge? You are real pilot with the real Mooney experience and your opinion has significant impact on the product quality evaluation.

I actually put a disclaimer at the top of this thread that I didn't fly "R" model only "J" which close, but not quite. My first impressions were "not bad". Also as it was pointed out to me, in my evaluation of Carenado model I used FT-101 instead of the "top" gauges. I'm no familiar  with FT-101A, I more familiar with JPI EDM gauges which are note featured in this model. If I look at the top gauges the number comes up close to performance tables actually.

P.S. All my flights I did in "J" model were from the right seat using manual elevator trim wheel because electric trim was not hooked up on copilot yoke. Money's manual trim wheel is small, squeezed between two seats, and with very awkward access. It also took a lot spinning to trim comparing with Pipers, Cessna and Beechcraft . "J" model had cowl flaps ("R" doesn't have), and also there were no airbrakes. Gliding speed in "J" model was 100mph. Since it was 1977 model speed gauge was in mph instead of kts.

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3 hours ago, kerosene31 said:

I don't own this but it seems like the problem is sorting Carenado specific bugs to default FS bugs.  I don't own any of their planes yet (probably will get one eventually), but it seems like a lot of the bug reports happen in the default aircraft (not making excuses for them, just trying to understand which ones can maybe be fixed by Asobo).  I get so many bugs just flying the default aircraft still, even after the last patch.

Good point... The AP NAV tracking "plus/minus 10 degrees" has been reported to Carenado, but the GNS530 issues are Asobo's to fix, as best I can tell.

For now, best to use the AP in HDG mode, or hand fly the airplane  🙂

Bert

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32 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

... If I look at the top gauges the number comes up close to performance tables actually.

Thank you very much! Your statement VERY IMPORTANT for the people who have spent money and for the people who will spend money buying Carenado Mooney M20R!

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So, with the recent additions to this thread, sorting out the fuel flow confusion, the M20R seems like a rather decent product?  If so, maybe I will ... buy it...

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41 minutes ago, MarioDonick said:

So, with the recent additions to this thread, sorting out the fuel flow confusion, the M20R seems like a rather decent product?  If so, maybe I will ... buy it...

Perhaps Carenado hired new coders to invade to the MSFS2020 market. IMHO, this Carenado M20R better than 90% GA airplanes from X-plane and FSX.😀

P.S. Here is MSFS2020 Carenado M20R Docs

Docs File Paths - ...\Official\OneStore\carenado-aircraft-m20r-ovation\SimObjects\Airplanes\Carenado_M20R_Ovation\Documentation

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5 hours ago, ShawnG said:

Lol, I did a Mooney flight (really just a few circuits) last night at Trondheim.  My copilot started yammering on the radio requesting pushback, so While the tug was getting into position, I pushed the throttle forward, and started my taxi.  No push back needed for me, no sir.  I was just about to turn right on the taxiway to the active runway, and I slowed down a few seconds to check something when BAM!  Pushback tug in front of me locked in and pushing me back.  Chased me down he did, nobody leaves this joint without a pushback!

you know you can cancel the pushback?

9 hours ago, Steve Dra said:

I've got a horse in this race now. :)  Bought it because @Bert Pieke assured us that it will be fixed, and that's good enough for me. 😉

Now I just have to find where the paint color is for the reg. 🙄

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Where did you find the aircraft.cfg file?

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5 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

For now, best to use the AP in HDG mode, or hand fly the airplane  🙂

Is the 10° increment unique to this aircraft?

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7 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Where did you find the aircraft.cfg file?

You don't need the original aircraft.cfg. MSFS introduces a great system for adding variations. There is a good thread about it over at fsdeveloper.com. You can find it here.

Ha I wouldn't call it a great system...there's a lot more work involved imo.  Plus using multiple liveries from multiple authors causes issues.

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Could anyone less word not allowed than myself shed some light as to which Ovation model exactly this Carenado offering is? I seem to remember that there’s Ovation II and III with different engine specs and avionics (could be wrong though).

I guess the Carenado version in MSFS has a 280hp max 2500rpm engine, correct?

(currently not at my computer)

Edit: is it the one described by AOPA here?

https://www.aopa.org/go-fly/aircraft-and-ownership/aircraft-fact-sheets/mooney-ovation

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58 minutes ago, clements said:

You don't need the original aircraft.cfg. MSFS introduces a great system for adding variations. There is a good thread about it over at fsdeveloper.com. You can find it here.

I read through all of that and agree with Ryan.  Complex, confusing, and overall not great.  In most aircraft the tail number can be easily changed by editing two lines in the aircraft,cfg file. Save. Done!  Less than 30 seconds and no confusion.

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