9 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

Good point... The AP NAV tracking "plus/minus 10 degrees" has been reported to Carenado, but the GNS530 issues are Asobo's to fix, as best I can tell.

For now, best to use the AP in HDG mode, or hand fly the airplane  🙂

The 10 degree thing is something I've not yet seen in any default aircraft, so that might be on them.  It is hard to tell though as there are so many bugs that are infrequent.  

I know the AP can't handle anything above 4x time acceleration, but otherwise the default AP mostly works, at least to follow the flight path.  

I fly the Cessna with the old gauges and there seem to be lots of 530 issues still.  

13 hours ago, kerosene31 said:

but it seems like a lot of the bug reports happen in the default aircraft (not making excuses for them, just trying to understand which ones can maybe be fixed by Asobo). 

The issue with the mixture control response is squarely on Asobo since it affects all recip aircraft engines.

Twelve Thousand views in a topic regarding a Carenado add-on.  Is this 2020 or what?! 

39 minutes ago, fppilot said:

OK. Worked when the DTK was on a tunable 270° (10° increment).  Have you tried it when the DTK is perhaps 276°?

Frank, you have mentioned this tuning issue before.. what exactly do you mean by that?

As best I know, I can tune any heading..

29 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Mine is hit and miss as well.

I cleaned out my Community Folder this morning to see if something in one of the User Mods might be causing the dead avionics.  Nope.  I then started up the sim and the Mooney and it was DOA so it is just wait for the fix for me.

46 minutes ago, fppilot said:

OK. Worked when the DTK was on a tunable 270° (10° increment).  Have you tried it when the DTK is perhaps 276°?

In a 30 minutes you will see a short video for NAV mode - VOR 276° and DIRECT 96° and I could easily select 276° or 96° with the mouse wheel.

Edited September 20, 20205 yr by OSM

18 minutes ago, n4gix said:

The issue with the mixture control response is squarely on Asobo since it affects all recip aircraft engines.

Yeah, I'm not a real pilot, but mixture and fuel flow seems really off based on what I know (unless other sims have taught me completely wrong).  I still can't get the 172 to fly with any kind of realistic fuel flow.  I'm flying in FS Economy so I'm "paying" for fuel and I just have to overfill the tanks and hope for the best.  I look at charts from more realistic 172 addons and I can't get anything even close to those numbers.  

2 hours ago, haskell said:

My theory is that Carenado is using HDG to control tracking the NAV. Basically the NAV says track 310... if you drift left it will set HDG to 312 until you are back on course. Then it locks HDG on 310. Until it drifts. 

If you have the 10 degree HDG bug bug, when it goes to select 312 it jumps to 320. Same for the other direction. So it is incapable of a smooth track. 

I may be completely wrong, but it makes sense to me. If that is the case, it is an MSFS issue that is the root of the problem and a Carenado issue in how they track NAV. 

Does anyone who does NOT have the 10 degree HDG issue have the plane? Can you confirm if NAV has the 10 degree issue or not? Could help troubleshooting. 

Interesting theory.. and worth a discussion..

On my system, only the two Carenado planes (C182, M20) show this NAV zigzag behavior.

The default C172 is just fine.

So what is going on??

You mention the 10 degree bug.. what is that? I do not believe I have seen it..

What certainly is suspicious to me also, is that the zig zags are exactly plus minus 10 degrees, ie a repeatable 20 degree correction.  (DTK = 125, course flown: 115-135-115-135 etc)

Edited September 20, 20205 yr by Bert Pieke

5 minutes ago, OSM said:

In a 30 minutes you will see a short video for NAV mode - VOR 276° and DIRECT 96° and I could easily select 276° or 96° with the mouse wheel.

Look forward to the video, but do you actually observe the plus minus 10 degree zigzag, before you apply the fix?

17 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Look forward to the video, but do you actually observe the plus minus 10 degree zigzag, before you apply the fix?

Yes! Video show this issue with VOR then I re-engaged NAV mode couple times and fixed it.

P.S. Video will be in a High Res in a one Hour.

 

Edited September 20, 20205 yr by OSM

29 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

You mention the 10 degree bug.. what is that? I do not believe I have seen it..

Hey Bert, 

First off, great to see you still active in FS and on the new sim! Feels like home. 

Some of us (seems to be narrowed to the Honeycomb yoke users) have a bug where the HDG bug only increments in units of 10. Seems to be related to the Honeycomb's always on (as opposed to pulses) switches. I have the issue and when I try to select a HDG with the bug it only jumps in 10 degree increments. I am wondering if something in the Carenado is causing the same issue. Seems more than a coincidence that they both are 10 degree issues. Seems like Fr. Bill is onto something with the "race condition" theory. 

At any rate, enjoying the conversation!

OK, I pulled the trigger (of course I did.) 

As others have mentioned, control is VERY sensitive. Not just with trim, but actually trying to hold pitch manually. VERY sensitive. 

Another issue I have is, when engaging AP, it bucks like a horse! Straight up to 2000 fpm then down to -2000 fpm. Any others have the issue? 

Is there a "best practices" for how to setup the AP and engage it? Maybe I'm doing something wrong. 

I will say I am going to LOVE this plane once I get it mastered!!

Thanks. 

48 minutes ago, OSM said:

Yes! Video show this issue with VOR then I re-engaged NAV mode couple times and fixed it.

P.S. Video will in a High Res in a one Hour.

 

OK, that shows it! 

Now, I'll have to try a test flight... will report back 🙂

Just now, Bert Pieke said:

OK, that shows it! 

Now, I'll have to try a test flight... will report back 🙂

Thank you! I hope you will like this "fix"!😀

**SOLVED: I disabled my Cessna Trim Wheel and it behaves well. Must be a conflict. 

 

Not only am I having a wild ride when engaging AP, when I disconnect I go full climb until I stall. 

Anyone else having this issue? Any idea if I'm doing something stupid to cause it? 

Thanks.

 

 

Edited September 20, 20205 yr by haskell
issue solved