3 minutes ago, GSalden said:

I give up on you... 

So easily?

1 minute ago, GSalden said:

I give up on you... 

Read the statements from RR and Damian about the SDK...

You have no idea what you're talking about. I don't need to read statements by anyone to understand why working with MSFS is different from other sims.

3PDs can no longer use hacks like with other sims. That means they need an actual SDK. Unlike in other sims where most core functions were open. That doesn't mean that other sims had a better SDK. If you can't understand that, ask someone else to explain to you 

12 minutes ago, PaulBB said:

Sebastian Wloch just talked about this as a last point in the Q&A

That's good news sometimes we really do jump the gun, I guess we worry we are going to be stuck with the Sim in its current state

Edited September 30, 20205 yr by n4gix
Removed unnecessary long quote!

5 minutes ago, GSalden said:

This is what they want to do....

They are causing more issues than they are solving at this moment 

When P3D started it was garbage 10 year ago, we are not even at 2 months....What p3d did in 10 years is marginal improvement, forced people to spend thousand of $ to fix default or getting at acceptable level, countless draw back was implemented forced developer to works again on each patch\update.

Edited September 30, 20205 yr by PaulBB

45 minutes ago, wthomas33065 said:

.... 

This product is miles ahead of either of those products in terms of both complexity and the need to incorporate realistic client server connections to be able to have real time access to 2 petabytes of scenery data.
..

 

Miles ahead? Not yet! That still has to be proved over time (how long will it take?).

I also think that MSFS has a great potential. But if development on all three sims is stopped now I would definitely not stick to MSFS.

 

My wishes for the world of serious flight simulators:

I hope that MS doesn't run out of budget before the sim is usable for a serious simmer.

I hope that LM will continue development also for us private users.

I hope that LR can survive. Competition is always good.

Karl

 

 

15 minutes ago, BigDee said:

Focusing on DX12. RT and USA scenery is a bad idea.

Au contraire-for me it's exactly the focus required for their predicted primary user base, Xbox users.  And the holidays are upon us.   ATC, flight planning refinements, a robust SDK for 3PD planeware primarily, is already well known in the flight sim development world.  They just can't do everything all at once is my sense.  They need a solid scenery and atmosphere engine that can work very well on both platforms, w/ realistic bandwidths and server capacity to consider.   DX12 is arguably a critical piece so makes perfect sense to get that implemented soon and well because it will be foundational for performance for the core sim and 3PD content as well.

2 minutes ago, psolk said:

Then go back to your home cockpit at 24FPS in P3D...  You aren't even USING MSFS yet you are here bashing it, it's developers and it's users endlessly...  I believe there is actually a word for someone intentionally stirring the pot up on the internet to further their own opinion.... 

FYI : I do have MSFS. You could have asked it instead of deciding that I do not have it ...

Pointing to issues is not stirring the pot. If P3D had big issues I would point to that too. 
We have paid for all this and may expect better than what we have now...

33 minutes ago, Slides said:

Where are the multiple threads and 100s of comments about these CTDs? 

Obviously there aren’t. Because NO ONE SINGLE SIMMER/GAMER/WHATEVER wants CTD’s while playing. 

1 minute ago, GSalden said:

We have paid for all this and may expect better than what we have now...

That's funny Gerard:  tally up your total €€€€ spent on P3D and see what you have, and contrast that against what you have paid for MSFS so far.

3 minutes ago, GSalden said:

FYI : I do have MSFS. You could have asked it instead of deciding that I do not have it ...

Pointing to issues is not stirring the pot. If P3D had big issues I would point to that too. 
We have paid for all this and may expect better than what we have now...

Then you should know you can have fluid airliners in MSFS...  

3 minutes ago, GSalden said:

If P3D had big issues I would point to that too.

Lol, P3D is the biggest issue itself. It looks like a cartoon.

1 hour ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

I would love more than anything to see MS stop with all this PR and focus all their energy on the facts, issues, and user requests.  They seem more focused on PR and damaged control via PR than actually provide fixes and what we all want for a better flight simulator.

Cheers, Rob.

 

Agree 100%
 

In their latest video interview they totally skipped the bugs question just to divert the discussion on cosmetic stuff belonging to a hypothetical far future.

Modders did more in 10 days then Asobo in 5 years of silly PR.

 

26 minutes ago, airlinejets said:

What is that, Fantasy Island?

this can be yours for usd 200.

(that is actually somewhat of a lie, I am also using ORBX textures+LC for an additional usd 150)

Just now, SAS443 said:

this can be yours for usd 200.

(that is actually somewhat of a lie, I am also using ORBX textures+LC for an additional usd 150)

I'll pass. 😅

5 minutes ago, Slides said:

Lol, P3D is the biggest issue itself. It looks like a cartoon.

The P3D base does indeed look like it. I totally agree with you on that.

But when you spent a lot you can make it look very differently....

MSFS scenery looks very good. Some issues here and there but those will be fixed. That costs a lot less than the thousands of euros I have spent on P3D...

But for me I want to fly complex jetliners + good looking scenery ...

I use Prosim and it will be compatible with MSFS very soon as their cockpit suite is running outside MSFS...

Surely I will try it ...