Face it, it’s a simulator and not the real world. Stutters are pretty much part of flight simulation. Too many of you complain about trivial issues. Look, none of us would have ever imagined that the natural world would have looked so real in a flight sim. The project is a magnificent piece of software engineer. If you feel so strongly about the flaws, go get a PhD in the field and give us the perfect sim. Someone complained about the door knobs not looking too realistic. You want to fly or drive a plane? Unreal.

As for the aerodynamics issues, third party developers will fix those issues. The giants of third party add-ons will give you the plane you want but you must be patient. They are no building a Super Mario game- they’re building complex aircraft.

The flight sim community is the most ruthless and demanding. MSFS could easily abandon the project and others will think twice before jumping in.

 

 

Edited September 30, 20205 yr by Huascar

Who are you talking to?

5 minutes ago, Evros said:

Who are you talking to?

If my comments apply to you, you are the audience.

14 minutes ago, Huascar said:

Stutters are pretty much part of flight simulation.

Why is that? Just because it has ever been that way?

 

14 minutes ago, Huascar said:

The flight sim community is the most ruthless and demanding.

And its the one paying by far the most for its enthusiasm.

You have no audience.

20 minutes ago, Evros said:

Who are you talking to?

He's talking to the complainers. 😀

Here's my take on this thread. If users/simmers don't come here to share their negative experiences, then there wouldn't be people will to come up with solutions to issues.

Some issues or problems can only be addressed and fixed by ASOBO or the dev team, but some it's been proven, can be fixed or a work around can be developed by this excellent community.

Huascar, don't worry so much about the negative topics and focus on ways that you can help or at least show some empathy for the simmer.

For some, this game or sim is all they have.

3 minutes ago, DJJose said:

He's talking to the complainers. 😀

Here's my take on this thread. If users/simmers don't come here to share their negative experiences, then there wouldn't be people will to come up with solutions to issues.

Some issues or problems can only be addressed and fixed by ASOBO or the dev team, but some it's been proven, can be fixed or a work around can be developed by this excellent community.

Huascar, don't worry so much about the negative topics and focus on ways that you can help or at least show some empathy for the simmer.

For some, this game or sim is all they have.

And those people are starting threads like this one.

53 minutes ago, Huascar said:

Face it, it’s a simulator and not the real world. Stutters are pretty much part of flight simulation. Too many of you complain about trivial issues.

As for the aerodynamics issues, ...................

What stutters?  Surely we all just close our eyes, and it has the extra benefit of not seeing any other anomalies in the scenery.

Aerodynamics, who needs them?   It's so much more fun having aircraft bouncing around, like on the end of a piece of elastic. It's entertaining, like a game should be. Shouldn't it?

 

1 hour ago, Huascar said:

The flight sim community is the most ruthless and demanding. MSFS could easily abandon the project and others will think twice before jumping in.

Obviously you do not play a lot of other games or you do not follow discussions about those games in forums, like Battlefield, Ubisoft Games (AC, Tom Clancy etc.) or even racing sims, if you really think that the flight sim community is the most ruthless and demanding.

Just short: what MS/Asobo currently does with posting "world trailers" showing scenic scenes from a version of MSFS that is clearly not the one we have on our rigs, they would already been virtually lynched in most other games. Simply google "downgrade" and you will be amazed how many times developers got into troubles doing this and beware, the reaction of those communities were way worse than what we see now in the flight sim community. 

In my opinion: they wanted to reach out for the gamers with MSFS and they failed. Now they have to learn how fast reactions like now are coming, if you release a product not finished to those gamers. 

Means: I totally contradict you, to me, the flight sim community is one of the most forgiving amongst many gaming communities. In all other communities, having the main software (e.g. the "game" or the "sim") in such a clear cut beta state for so long (talking about P3D and earlier on FSX, partially XPlane, DCS), sometimes even addons being released in a clear beta state, the community would go way further and sales would be down forever. 

1 hour ago, Huascar said:

As for the aerodynamics issues, third party developers will fix those issues. The giants of third party add-ons will give you the plane you want but you must be patient. They are no building a Super Mario game- they’re building complex aircraft.

Why is one of the answers to this mess always to wait for third parties?

Another, it's a 10 year commitment, it will be awesome.

MS/Asobo raved about much of what they were doing, they even teased us with exceptional marketing videos. They haven't delivered anything close to what they marketed.

With each patch they break more then they fix. Don't understand the praise for this game at the moment.

Currently right now the "Level of Detail" comes nowhere close to what was advertised.

If I have to buy all sorts of third party stuff like REX Weather then I may as well keep using the other offerings. They already have plenty of good third party options.

 

 

Edited September 30, 20205 yr by tpete61

1 hour ago, Huascar said:

As for the aerodynamics issues, third party developers will fix those issues. The giants of third party add-ons will give you the plane you want but you must be patient.

You know I am growing a little impatient with the people who defend this sim by continually resorting to the future tense:

 "What will be"---

"who will fix"--

"Relax, some day it will work"---

"Just wait another six months to a year, more issues will be fixed".

  The most obvious response to these kinds of statements is that it isn't so easy to be patient since they have our money --in the present tense.

Edited September 30, 20205 yr by TASCHMANN

 

1 hour ago, Huascar said:

MSFS could easily abandon the project and others will think twice before jumping in.

In other words, stop complaining about getting a woefully unfinished product or they may get mad and never do it again?   We hear this one a lot.

It is becoming astounding-- how all logic is being abandonned to defend the companies who deliver shoddy products.

Edited September 30, 20205 yr by TASCHMANN

17 minutes ago, TASCHMANN said:

You know I am growing a little impatient with the people who defend this sim by continually resorting to the future tense:

 "What will be"---

"who will fix"--

"Relax, some day it will work"---

"Just wait another six months to a year, more issues will be fixed".

  The most obvious response with these kinds of statements is that it isn't so easy to be patient since they have our money in the present tense.

The same thing happened when they released FSX. Patience paid off.

 

1 hour ago, Huascar said:

If my comments apply to you, you are the audience.

I don't feel that I am. I'm not running around in these forums complaining about the things you describe. So you best respond to individual topics not come here and spit in everyone's face by saying "get a PhD and do better or shut up" 

Customers have a right to voice their concerns, even when often enough those concerns are not objective because of frustrations coming from individual's tolerance. Never the less, making a new topic that is pretty much a gag order is out of place.

Edited September 30, 20205 yr by Evros

Blackshark has two PhDs on their team that just deal with rooftop visualizations from 2D to 3D models. Think about that. The deep tech that it took to bring us this sim and digital twin of the planet is still not good enough for some of the cockpit button pushers. SDK, AP, FM etc issues are reasonably solvable in comparison to that accomplishment.