Iris announced on their facebook a few days ago that their J160/J170 aircraft have been submitted to MS for approval and will hopefully make it to the market place soon.

Cool - really hope the rest of their catalogue moves over too. Looking forward to the PC21, Texan and A10!

Wait, what? MS has to approve aircraft for the Marketplace? What is their criteria if the first two aircraft got the green light? 🤪

I'm no microbiologist, but it kinda looks like one o' them Pipistrel Virus thingies, don't it?

 

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by Stoopy

Personally I'm a little tired of all the low speed single engine prop aircraft in the sim. 

17 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

Personally I'm a little tired of all the low speed single engine prop aircraft in the sim. 

Second that. Also why I'd love Iris to bring over some jets

Agreed. Kudos to the dev for getting the model across but I want to start flying 757's, 10's and Tristars not another hedge clipper doing 150 knots!

1 hour ago, lupedelupe said:

Wait, what? MS has to approve aircraft for the Marketplace? What is their criteria if the first two aircraft got the green light? 🤪

Of course they have to - Just like Apple and Google do when you upload an app to their AppStore.

 

Anyway for those actually interested in this aircraft - There are more pictures of it on their Facebook  page: https://www.facebook.com/irissimulations/posts/10158505338647416

 

No more light sports! LOL

I wanted a PMDG-quality private/corporate jet in P3d for... Well really since I bought P3d. Now I want one in MSFS.

P3d never got one. They got the Flysimware Falcon which had good systems and flight model, but even after the texture revamp the visuals were... Less than amazing. And they had the Xtreme Prototypes Lear 25 which was one heck of a fun little beast to fly. The visuals were very good. The 70's colors on the interiors were so authentic you could almost imagine there was a baggie of cocaine in the cabinet. And the disco/funk on the 8-track was hilarious. But the flight model was a little lacking and the systems modeling was... Well, it had an autothrottle, which was just wrong. 😉

Hopefully the new attention the sim world is getting because of MSFS will convince someone to make a really good "study-level" jet. I'd love a Falcon 7x, a Citation X, or a Phenom 300E.

 

44 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

Personally I'm a little tired of all the low speed single engine prop aircraft in the sim. 

I like them as they are something I might get to fly IRL. The aero club at a local beach town near here hires out a J170 for example.

I have some interest in aircraft I will probably never actually see but COULD fly if one were around and available (like something with a big radial like a Beech Staggerwing ) but no interest in Boeing or Airbus people movers.  I do understand many people love them, but it is just not my thing personally.

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

47 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

Personally I'm a little tired of all the low speed single engine prop aircraft in the sim. 

I am not at all tired, just love them. I am not though sure we need another mediocre slow-speeder.

Does anyone else get the impression that a fair percentage of the default aircraft provided in this sim seem to be there because they represent a potential sales / marketing / "Learn-to-fly" promotional opportunity for the manufacturer?  Maybe this is obvious to everyone and it's just dawning on my primitive mind just now, but all the LSA and most of the trainer aircraft planes are current or new production models - the Pipistrel Virus, Flight Design CTSL, Diamond DV20, Icon A5, JMB VL-3, as well as the DA40's, and the Cub family of XCub, Savage Cub and Shock Ultra all seem to be  cut from the same "promotional-feeling" cloth. 

With an Icon A5 instead of the good old Grumman Goose we had in FSX, 3 different Cub-clones instead of the original Cub in past sims, and  the Virus and CTSL instead of the Trike, it just feels so... blatantly commercial.  Coolness factor has been tossed in favor of marketing opportunity.  If Frank Zappa were alive and simming today, would he be pointing out that we've been sold out to crass commercialism?  

What bothers me the most is that, as noted in above posts, we've got a plethora of high-wing bug smashers and that means it may be even longer before a reputable developer takes on the challenge of giving us something on par with the RealAir Scout/Citabria/Decathlon package, a set of truly superior aircraft, any of which would easily leave all these other pretenders in the dust.  I'd trade all of them in for a Scout in a heartbeat, but may not see that opportunity for quite some time to come, which would be a real shame. 

The outlier here is the good ol' One-Filthy-Two which I am happy they gave us 2 versions of.  That one's a keeper.  

 

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by Stoopy

Eh. I think if someone has the money and desire to buy a new airplane, they're probably not going to be influenced on which one to get by a video game.

I suspect it's more along the lines of "we were able to license this intellectual property for a reasonable price." And the "it's only to sell airplanes" theory does not explain the inclusion of the jetliners. 

As to the A5, it's a nice, very easy to fly sea plane that shows off the sim's ability to let you land on water and didn't require nearly as much systems modeling as just about any other seaplane out there. That, plus a nod to MS Flight which was abandoned long before it should have been, is probably why it's in there. Actually it might be in there because whatever agreement MS signed to put it in Flight is still in place, so they were able to use it for "free." 

I do admit I'm curious why they didn't give us a floats model of the piston Cessnas, or the amphib version of the 208. That would have been a pretty easy way to brag that they added "more planes" to the mix without having to develop an airplane from the ground up.

 

3 hours ago, lupedelupe said:

Wait, what? MS has to approve aircraft for the Marketplace? What is their criteria if the first two aircraft got the green light? 🤪

I wouldn't be surprised if it was just 'don't crash the sim'.

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by Tuskin38