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1.12.13 stuttering

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2 minutes ago, Turpentine said:

I had also noticed more stuttering since the update. On the upside, this forced me to look around the various forums and come across the RTSS Scanline Sync trick. Now my sim is the smoothest it has ever been. Can't believe I had not tried it earlier!

What is this trick? Do you have specifics?

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro

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25 minutes ago, RobJC said:

What is this trick? Do you have specifics?

Ha, so it looks like I was not the only one who missed it...

I'm no specialist, but here is what I did based on a number of older posts:

1. Downloaded RTSS (RivaTuner Statistics Server)

2. Fire up RTSS and add a profile, pointing at your flightsimulator.exe file

3. For that profile, set Framerate limit to 30 (that's for my 2060 Super, if you have a 3090 maybe you can try higher, no clue)

4. Right below the Framerate limit, there's "Scanilne sync". Click on the text until it shows "x/2" next to it (and NOT x2 as I did initially)

5. Using the arrow, set the value to -1 (though it does not seem to make much difference for me, what did was clearly the x/2)

If you like what you see, in the top left select "Start with Windows"

Note that I removed the framerate cap in the NVidia panel and the sim. Also, disable Vsync. And don't bother if you have a GSync monitor.

Hopefully it will help others, it worked great on my side.

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Hi 

I wanted to try your rivatuner trick but when I go to Flightsimulator.exe to add it it says that it can't be accessed by the system. Any ideas? 

 

Thank You

Anthony

Anthony

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53 minutes ago, ant02151973 said:

Hi 

I wanted to try your rivatuner trick but when I go to Flightsimulator.exe to add it it says that it can't be accessed by the system. Any ideas? 

 

Thank You

Anthony

Same here,...
Any solution ?

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On 12/28/2020 at 11:06 PM, devgrp said:

Apparently not if you having stutters. Let me guess you're running everything at ultra? 

On 12/28/2020 at 11:31 PM, somiller said:

Shame there is no way to block this word not allowed.

edit:

What a world we live in...the word that looks something like iciot, but with a "d" instead of a "c" is a blocked word.

Ooh, bonus - I just found the BLOCK function!

Fully agree on that. Any hardware can run into it`s limit.

It`s again the company with the worst programming skills, that did again a great job.

But they are not the only ones:

Wanted to try RTX in Unreal Engine 4, downloaded this scene and realized that only one car and some building had 14GB in total size. 14GB, that means roughly 2 billion polygons for just one silly car. No matter how fast hardware can be, true i*iots will do their work, and other i*iots will blame the hardware for that.

 

2 hours ago, ant02151973 said:

Hi 

I wanted to try your rivatuner trick but when I go to Flightsimulator.exe to add it it says that it can't be accessed by the system. Any ideas? 
Thank You
Anthony

 

1 hour ago, altenae said:

Same here,...
Any solution ?

First of all, as Turpentine says - he is 100% right and that is how I now run my 1080Ti smoothly.

Secondly, I also had the problem of not finding my flightsimulator.exe file.  I typed it in manually but I have forgotten how to do that at the moment.  I will investigate how I did it, however, until then, just run it on the 'Global' profile, and it will apply to ALL games running.

Don't worry about affecting your other games, because RTSS needs to be running and open, or minimised in the background, or it won't have any affect on MSFS.  So for other games, insure it is shut down (a simple click on X at the top right of its screen).

If it isn't showing on your desktop or it is not minimised in the tray, it isn't running, and in that case it can't apply its settings.  You can change these on the fly by using alt-tab when inside the sim to test it is running.  For instance, you can set it to 10 fps to show that it is working, and you should only see 10 fps in the sim then, immediately after setting it.

Also, don't run too many pre-rendered frames (such as -3) because if you are close to the 30 fps limit with your card, it can actually make things worse by putting extra strain on your GPU.  And also as Turp says, make sure you are unlimited FPS / Vsync in the sim, and set everything in Nvidia Control Panel to 'application controlled' or off.  I also found my AF ans Super Sampling settings had an effect in the sim after this.  I run AF x16, SS x6.  You will get blurry runway lines without! :biggrin:

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Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

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The best way to avoid stuttering is to fly outside USA.

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1 minute ago, Ixoye said:

The best way to avoid stuttering is to fly outside USA.

I fly mainly in the USA and experience no stutters

Do you guys have GPU hardware acceleration on or off in windows 10 under game mode  ?
Seems now better wih 'off" 

 

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21 minutes ago, altenae said:

Do you guys have GPU hardware acceleration on or off in windows 10 under game mode  ?
Seems now better wih 'off" 

 

I have mine on and also variable refresh rate on

21 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I read an article that said this too, the problem is, how do we keep it GPU limited when using a 3090? It always flashes main thread limited in dense areas for split seconds, that causes the micro stutter bursts. 

When I go back to the 3090 I won't change any settings so I can do a comparison. But yet again today, using the 1070 everything seemed very smooth, although I'm still not measuring FPS I can say there are absolutely no stutters.

I can report that pixelated clouds are back with the 1070 though.

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43 minutes ago, devgrp said:

I have mine on and also variable refresh rate on

Variable refresh rate ?, ( where is this setting)
Or do you mean vertical ?

 

MSI Tomahawk Z790, I7-13700K, DDR5 6000mhz, MSI 4090, 3x SSD 980 PRO, Corsair 360 Liguid CPU cooler, Corsair H1200V2 power.

Also it's much smoother with the outside view
The cockpit view and custom wing view will show some stutter. (A320NX)

MSI Tomahawk Z790, I7-13700K, DDR5 6000mhz, MSI 4090, 3x SSD 980 PRO, Corsair 360 Liguid CPU cooler, Corsair H1200V2 power.

for what its worth, I'm running a 1070 and I find that setting render scaling to 160 (on a 1920x1080 display) not only makes it look better but also run better for some reason.

also - I have no idea if this is the case here - but sometimes the latest and greatest cards will activate features in the sim that older cards can't or won't.  The sim thus throws more work at the newer cards where it won't even try on older cards.  not saying thats happening here but maybe?

also2 - it doesnt seem to stutter any more than it ever did. panning left or right at an airport always causes stutters but just flying seems to be fairly smooth.

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|   Dave   |    I've been around for most of my life.

There's always a sunset happening somewhere in the world that somebody is enjoying.

1 hour ago, altenae said:

Variable refresh rate ?, ( where is this setting)
Or do you mean vertical ?

 

No variable refresh rate. Its in the same place as GPU hardware acceleration. It might be driver or gpu specific but its there

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