Just now, fogboundturtle said:

The DC-6 is probably more complex than the 737 in many many ways.

Please elaborate...what ways?  What probabilities are you considering?

1 minute ago, kevinfirth said:

Please elaborate...what ways?  What probabilities are you considering?

They have model every single breaker and failure associated with it. That is complex. People think glass is complex but modelling radial engine and their behavior including all the failures is complex too. 

1 minute ago, fogboundturtle said:

The DC-6 is probably more complex than the 737 in many many ways.

Speculative. Because then I do NOT understand why DG would start with a model which doesn't sell that good like the 737....

I think you are a bit dreaming here....sorry to say this. 

It's a fact PMDG has shifter priorities. We all know that as they communicated this.

Why? 

2 minutes ago, kevinfirth said:

Please elaborate...what ways?  What probabilities are you considering?

And this is exactly the right question. 

That's why I wrote earlier about a needed toolkit SDK and profitable way to create the 737....

1 minute ago, mpo910 said:

Speculative. Because then I do NOT understand why DG would start with a model which doesn't sell that good like the 737....

I think you are a bit dreaming here....sorry to say this. 

It's a fact PMDG has shifter priorities. We all know that as they communicated this.

Why? 

if you knew about PMDG history, RSR has a deep love for the DC-6 as he flew the DC-3 for a very long time. He loves classic aircraft. There is a possibility that he is waiting on a few things in the SDK before releasing the 737. Who knows He wont' tell us.

2 minutes ago, mpo910 said:

I find it a hidden info that PMDG prioritized the DC6 before the 737. It just tells me the SDK isn't that far and DL6 isn't that complex so they can make money with DC6 and have to wait what MS does with the SDK. 

I don't know, but on the assumption that steam gauges are easier to implement than complex avionics, that hypothesis may carry some weight.  On the other hand, if they are genuinely expecting to release the NGXu this year, then if could sing be reflective of the coding required for each, and not that they are waiting to see what happens with the SDK.  On balance, I don't think PMDG would have said what they have without a certain level of confidence it was technically achievable.

So I'm out again....good luck and thumbs up to those who enjoy MSFS.

Everyone should do what he likes and everyone should enjoy the sim which matches his requirements the most.

As simple as that. 

Marcus

 

 

1 minute ago, fogboundturtle said:

if you knew about PMDG history, RSR has a deep love for the DC-6 as he flew the DC-3 for a very long time. He loves classic aircraft. There is a possibility that he is waiting on a few things in the SDK before releasing the 737. Who knows He wont' tell us.

He has are more deep love for making money as he runs a huge business with responsible sense. 

You are way to speculative. Really. Business is money.......and strategy.

 

Just now, fogboundturtle said:

if you knew about PMDG history, RSR has a deep love for the DC-6 as he flew the DC-3 for a very long time. He loves classic aircraft. There is a possibility that he is waiting on a few things in the SDK before releasing the 737. Who knows He wont' tell us.

I wouldn't discount this at all, but we have no way of knowing how much that kind of emotion is in the mix!

17 hours ago, Nyxx said:

Buying it again surgest i have to buy it again at the full price, i bought and enjoyed it in P3D and becasue of that I only have to pay IF there is a diffrenct price and only the diffence. So no i dont have to buy it again as I own the P3D version. So technically I am not buying it again at all. Becasue the P3D gives me ownership.

Do you have to pay money? You're buying it again...

3 minutes ago, kevinfirth said:

I don't know, but on the assumption that steam gauges are easier to implement than complex avionics, that hypothesis may carry some weight.  On the other hand, if they are genuinely expecting to release the NGXu this year, then if could sing be reflective of the coding required for each, and not that they are waiting to see what happens with the SDK.  On balance, I don't think PMDG would have said what they have without a certain level of confidence it was technically achievable.

Technical achievable is a lot......mostly everything....with time and enough money. If it's profitable due the way and effort....that's the other question. 

Edited May 23, 20215 yr by mpo910

Just now, kevinfirth said:

I wouldn't discount this at all, but we have no way of knowing how much that kind of emotion is in the mix!

We will never know. It's true the DC-6 is a less risky first aircraft as it won't be as popular as the 737 for sure. 

Just now, mpo910 said:

You are way to speculative. Really. Business is money.......and strategy.

Again, this doesn't have to be an either/or question! You can both be right 🙂 undoubtedly PMDG see profit in MSFS, likely with any product.  I'd expect the entire range to be released in time, so the question is merely a matter of order.  In that context, if I was RR, I would release whichever was easiest to first.

4 hours ago, w6kd said:

I'm far more inclined to trust RSR than Asobo based on my history with both...I think the big unknown is whether or not Asobo will (or can) keep the functionality PMDG depends upon stable over time--e.g. to not bork the add-on with future MSFS updates.  Much of my dissatisfaction with MSFS is directly linked to the effects of their frequent and forced bugged updates.  Win10 keeps me in a near-constant state of seething anger for the same reason.

Move fast and break things or be disrupted! While some may think so, civilian flight-sims *are not* mission-critical software.

The days of a supposedly stable (but rotten to the core) platform like FSX or snail pace evolution of P3D/XP11 are over and I am glad Asobo is actively experimenting with our simulator. That is the method that brought us MSFS in the first place.

And thank you guys for the discussion in this topic. Controversies apart, it made my 1-hour treadmill morning session literally fly-by! 😀

 

1 minute ago, kevinfirth said:

Again, this doesn't have to be an either/or question! You can both be right 🙂 undoubtedly PMDG see profit in MSFS, likely with any product.  I'd expect the entire range to be released in time, so the question is merely a matter of order.  In that context, if I was RR, I would release whichever was easiest to first.

Could also be....of course.....

Wouldn't disagree on that.

Fact is ...I still have no 737 or 777 in MSFS which matches my requirements. 

That's why MSFS is not my favorite sim