2 hours ago, kevinfirth said:

And you can evidence this definitive statement how?  We know that Asobo have released promotional material that wasn't in the actual SIM (case in point, shorelines..). Is it that much of a mental leap to suppose that some developers have access to more advanced development builds as well as tools and knowledge, than that publicly available? 

My observation was based purely on the evidence, being neither positive or negative in nature.  Unless you can substantiate your black and white claim, your analysis seems to be more biased.

And you have evidence that there is a secret/special/ what ever you want to call it beta? You asked him for evidence well am asking you the same.

Not what you think or speculate in your words evidence/facts please.

I don’t want your rambling about shorelines just links evidence of a some special beta SDK. To back up your claims. Link us all developers claiming what you say, show us.

You and mpo910 are P3D users but come here to do nothing but belittle PMDG announcement and claims about MSFS SDK and you both like best little buddies keep agreeing with each other. 

 

13 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

My "Ignore" list keeps growing.. 😉

I'd say mine was ready for the thread 😏. Haters and zealots both already in the bin.  

It’s just people that what to belittle others sims to make themselves feel good.

When your  grown up, you can enjoy as many of the current sims as you chose to because unlike religion you can enjoy more than one. But some simmers are hell bent on pulling down a sim they don’t even have or use.

It truly says a lot about them.

 

38 minutes ago, devgrp said:

Well maybe you should watched the video and hear the man speak for yourself. Don't know what it confirms for you, but it explains why they are releasing the dc6 first. Don't know what all this conspiracy theories are about. 

Point me to the sentences about conspiracy theory ?

I'm not against or pro any sim. I want complex Airliners like 777 or 787, 747 A320 or 350 in the sim..the sim who offers me this...and give me decent immersion and stable platform is the one or are the ones I use. 

So why you are talking about conspiracy theories is not clear to me.

Marcus

It's just people who can't read carefully and exactly what users critisize or require from a platform like MS or P3D or Xplane l, to be or become a happy simmer, who's interpretation is going to far and therefore just read what they wanna read and not read what I wrote. 

I am NOT contra any sim. I am pro for the platform which matches my requirements. 

And there are reasons for it that MS is NOT matching them at the moment or maybe even won't this year. 

Which reasons don't even really matter for all, but for me it helps understanding IF it will ever come so far in 2021. 

And I personally think it is not. PMDG postponed their 737 to the end of this year.......and even this CAN change to a later moment. It is all depending on MS willing to spent money to deliver what PMDG needs at the SDK to deliver a decent and profitable product. 

And as XBOX will bring money in MS pockets, the SDK only costs them money, this is likely not as high prioritized as XBOX.

So PMDG sees this most likely and decided to deliver a more easy doable product to earn money and postpone those who are more complex\needing more SDK items to develop properly and profitable. 

But THIS is my personal view.....yours maybe very different. 

But fact is....2021 is long  to go....and 2020 hasn't offered any complex Airliners l, like almost a complete 2021 will not offer me such a plane. 

Well ...as long as that is the case my prioritized sim is P3D .....

 

Edited May 23, 20215 yr by mpo910

37 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

You and mpo910 are P3D users but come here to do nothing but belittle PMDG announcement and claims about MSFS SDK and you both like best little buddies keep agreeing with each other. 

That's simply not true, I have never rubbished MSFS, see my previous posts where I've said I hope it progresses to be the best that it can be, regardless of whether I use it or not.  As it happens, it doesn't fulfill my needs, yet, who knows whether it will in the future?  I like the visual improvements, but it doesn't have everything I need at the moment.

I also said PMDG releasing top tier add-ons for MSFS is a positive thing, not sure how you translate that into belittling it?

3 hours ago, kevinfirth said:

Hmmm, I did my PPL at Liverpool some years ago, and I don't recall any particularly noticeable turbulence on approach to 27 over Hale village.... 

You do get a bit more these days on occasion. I suspect it might be something to do with the wind turbines across the estuary churning up the heat coming off the Stanlow Refinery.

Your a P3D and it fits perfectly what you want. But here you are lol

32 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

It’s just people that what to belittle others sims to make themselves feel good.

When your  grown up, you can enjoy as many of the current sims as you chose to because unlike religion you can enjoy more than one. But some simmers are hell bent on pulling down a sim they don’t even have or use.

It truly says a lot about them.

 

Saying I like P3D more because it's the Plattform I use because it matches my requirements is clearly NOT EVEN CLOSE THE SAME AS pulling other platforms down. 

But exactly this is what is wondering me. Why is that? Why are people stating this based on what users write here?

44 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

And you have evidence that there is a secret/special/ what ever you want to call it beta? You asked him for evidence well am asking you the same. Not what you think or speculate in your words evidence/facts please. I don’t want your rambling about shorelines just links evidence of a some special beta SDK. To back up your claims. Link us all developers claiming what you say, show us.

You and mpo910 are P3D users but come here to do nothing but belittle PMDG announcement and claims about MSFS SDK and you both like best little buddies keep agreeing with each other.

Come on, David. I expect better from you than simply echoing the opinions of other MSFS users who hate to see even the slightest criticism about Microsoft Flight Simulator. Whilst I do not know Marcus, I do know Kevin......and he is not the kind of guy to "belittle" anything simply for amusement. He is stating his opinions based on what he has seen and read, and also on what he requires in a flight simulator. He at least deserves some respect for that.

Edited May 23, 20215 yr by Christopher Low

1 minute ago, kevinfirth said:

That's simply not true, I have never rubbished MSFS, see my previous posts where I've said I hope it progresses to be the best that it can be, regardless of whether I use it or not.  As it happens, it doesn't fulfill my needs, yet, who knows whether it will in the future?  I like the visual improvements, but it doesn't have everything I need at the moment.

I also said PMDG releasing top tier add-ons for MSFS is a positive thing, not sure how you translate that into belittling it?

I asked you a question so answer the question it was about you saying some have a special beta you seem to have forgot the point of my question completely. 

33 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

But some simmers are hell bent on pulling down a sim they don’t even have or use.

It truly says a lot about them.

I've not pulled anything down, let's be grown up.  I have observed the available evidence and drawn a conclusion that fits everything I know, not just the bits I happen to like.  If you dont agree that's cool, but your interpretation of that as 'pulling down' says more about you than it does me sorry.

1 minute ago, Nyxx said:

Your a P3D and it fits perfectly what you want. But here you are lol

This is the best rubbish I ever read here coming directly from your keyboard. 

Read what I wrote and read exactly that....I did not ever pulled MSFS down.....not ever ones. 

Even if I say for me it's like a game....that means not I'm putting it down. 

But that's what You make of it.

 

You simply have come here like others with not interested in MSFS as you fly P3D your just here to talk BS.

Edited May 23, 20215 yr by Nyxx

1 minute ago, Nyxx said:

I asked you a question so answer the question it was about you saying some have a special beta you seem to have forgot the point of my question completely. 

MSFS have clearly communicated there is a beta SDK and limited devs at 300 who are testing this. It's no secret at all. And those 300 devs are mostly planecreators and dlc developers. 

This is a fact.....and no assumption. I have this from 1. hand....and those people I talk to would love to earn money with MSFS.....but they can't at the moment because the SDK is not offering what they need. And those people are not exceptions.