1 hour ago, The Moose said:

For goodness sake, the Xbox is more powerful than the majority of peoples PC's.   Stop with this nonsense please. 

These guys have no clue. They're just looking for a scapegoat

8 minutes ago, joec63 said:

You have no idea what you speak of. That Xbox console doesn't even run MSFS2020 and is 8 yrs old.

 

The Xbox Series X is closer to the current generation cards

	GeForce RTX 3080	Xbox Series X	PlayStation 5
GPU architecture	Discrete Ampere graphics	Integrated RDNA 2	Integrated RDNA 2
GPU Clock	1710 MHz	1825 MHz	2333 MHz
Memory	10GB GDDR6X	10GB GDDR6	16GB GDDR 6
Memory bus	320 bit	320 bit	256 bit
Bandwidth	760 GBps	560 GBps	448 GBps
TDP	320W	200W	180W
Shading units	8704	3328	2304
Compute units	68	52	36
ROPs	96	80	64
TMUs	272	208	144
RT cores	68	unknown	unknown
Tensor cores	272	unknown	unknown
TFLOPs	29.7	12	10.2
Transistors (millions)	28,000	15,300	unknown
Pricing	$699	$499	$499

 

8 minutes ago, joec63 said:

You have no idea what you speak of. That Xbox console doesn't even run MSFS2020 and is 8 yrs old.

 

The Xbox Series X is closer to the current generation cards

	GeForce RTX 3080	Xbox Series X	PlayStation 5
GPU architecture	Discrete Ampere graphics	Integrated RDNA 2	Integrated RDNA 2
GPU Clock	1710 MHz	1825 MHz	2333 MHz
Memory	10GB GDDR6X	10GB GDDR6	16GB GDDR 6
Memory bus	320 bit	320 bit	256 bit
Bandwidth	760 GBps	560 GBps	448 GBps
TDP	320W	200W	180W
Shading units	8704	3328	2304
Compute units	68	52	36
ROPs	96	80	64
TMUs	272	208	144
RT cores	68	unknown	unknown
Tensor cores	272	unknown	unknown
TFLOPs	29.7	12	10.2
Transistors (millions)	28,000	15,300	unknown
Pricing	$699	$499	$499

Now let's see the X box S which MSFS will run on. 

4 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Now let's see the X box S which MSFS will run on.

at lower graphics settings and resolution compared to the X.

No different than two PCs running different graphics options.

Edited August 2, 20214 yr by Tuskin38

Just now, Tuskin38 said:

at lower graphics settings and resolution.

Well that is what we all have now after SU5, lower graphics settings. 

Lol those specs are pretty much a 10 th generation gtx. 

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Well that is what we all have now after SU5, lower graphics settings. 

That is not what I meant.

They can lower the graphics settings on the X-Box the same way you can right now on your PC.

They don't need to remove graphics options to get the sim to work on X-Box, they just need to lower the settings.

Edited August 2, 20214 yr by Tuskin38

15 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Alright Mr, Negative Nancy. Live in your silly conspiracy theory world. Do you want a tinfoil hat?

Yes please to block word not allowed

removing volumetric light effect is a bad move.  make it a platform switch option...

The XBox S is about like a PC with a 2060, and the X is like a 2080 maybe. Both could run MSFS SU-4, but the S would have been pretty choppy in big cities before SU 5.

 

Edited August 2, 20214 yr by Alpine Scenery

5 hours ago, joec63 said:

You have no idea what you speak of. That Xbox console doesn't even run MSFS2020 and is 8 yrs old.

 

The Xbox Series X is closer to the current generation cards

	GeForce RTX 3080	Xbox Series X	PlayStation 5
GPU architecture	Discrete Ampere graphics	Integrated RDNA 2	Integrated RDNA 2
GPU Clock	1710 MHz	1825 MHz	2333 MHz
Memory	10GB GDDR6X	10GB GDDR6	16GB GDDR 6
Memory bus	320 bit	320 bit	256 bit
Bandwidth	760 GBps	560 GBps	448 GBps
TDP	320W	200W	180W
Shading units	8704	3328	2304
Compute units	68	52	36
ROPs	96	80	64
TMUs	272	208	144
RT cores	68	unknown	unknown
Tensor cores	272	unknown	unknown
TFLOPs	29.7	12	10.2
Transistors (millions)	28,000	15,300	unknown
Pricing	$699	$499	$499

There's no doubt they are quite powerful compared to previous generations. 
But you're now comparing the entire console to a single GPU without the rest of the computer.
So what parameters are relevant to look at? Shader units is one. The consoles deliver under half. TFLOPs is a popular metric. The consoles deliver a third. The only one metric that stands out is the amount of memory on the PS5. Which is irrelevant since MSFS is never going to run on it. 

Graphics -> BLOOM OFF

 

Graphics -> BLOOM ON

I don't believe bloom is the same as volumetric lighting. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Try enabling bloom and fly through some clouds and see if you get any sort of reflection of your plane lights from the clouds.

The RTX3080 comparison is a bit over the top, but the claim that Xbox X or even S is like a GTX1070 is daft. The Xbox Series X GPU is a customised AMD GPU, comparible to a RTX2080 series GPU, certainly not inferior to one. MSFS was designed with the RTX2080 as the recommended upper GPU for ultra mode graphics settings in the sim.

Incidentally, my GTX1070 runs MSFS in ultra mode at 30FPS, smooth, no issues, at 1080p. The point there being a GTX1070 is capable of volumetric lighting and all the other famcy effects. It just can't perform them at 4K or a higher frame rate -- but what it does in terms of effects and techniques is identical.

Asobo have no reason at all to remove effects, not even for the Xbox Series S (especially when they know how to implement detail levels for various hardware, evidenced by the sliders in the PC version). Where things have apparently degraded, it's a bug. Something has gone wrong that can and likely will be fixed.

 

Edited August 2, 20214 yr by March Hare

14 hours ago, Keirtt said:

This is how it currently looks!

 

LOL, welcome to 2008.

I didn't notice that because I never fly at night. 

47 minutes ago, captain420 said:

I don't believe bloom is the same as volumetric lighting. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Try enabling bloom and fly through some clouds and see if you get any sort of reflection of your plane lights from the clouds.

We do have volumetric lighting but we don't have haze cone of light. Haze doesn't reflect light after SU5.

Here is the raindrops reflect volumetric lighting but haze doesn't:

Edited August 2, 20214 yr by OSM