August 10, 20214 yr I got the Alpha and the Bravo and I'm in the market for some pedals as well. Right now the MFG Crosswind V3 looks really tempting. Either that or cheap out and get CH or something like that vatsim s3
August 10, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said: I had CH pedals for 13 years before the USB part of them finally gave up. I replaced them with the Logitek. Two things I do not like about the Logitek, is that they slide all over the place. Tried Velcro, that didnt work. Finally had to go out and by a 2 foot by 2 foot piece of 1/2 inch plywood, and screw them to the plywood, which works fine. The other thing I do not like about them is the clicking sound I get from them when right near center on the rudder pedals. I heard there was a fix for that, but in order to fix them, you have to take them apart, which I am not about to do, so I just put up with the click.. If these ever die, I am going to go back to CH pedals. These CH Pedals are not too bad, I've used them for years but they are quite expensive nowadays, over €200. For €100 more you can buy MFG Crosswind pedals which are excellent. Flightsim rig: CPU: AMD 5900x | Mobo: MSI X570 MEG Unify | RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo | GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3090 | Storage: M.2 (2 & 4 TB) | PSU: Corsair RM850x | Case: Fractal Define 7 XL Display: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 | Speakers: Logitech Z906 Controllers: Fulcrum One Yoke | MFG Crosswind v2 pedals | Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant |Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant | Stream Deck XL & Plus | TrackIR 5 Tobii eye tracking
August 10, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: Can't imagine that ever working properly. It doesn't. Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
August 10, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, wims80 said: I got the Alpha and the Bravo and I'm in the market for some pedals as well. Right now the MFG Crosswind V3 looks really tempting. Either that or cheap out and get CH or something like that I recommend the Crosswinds. They are sturdy and use hall sensors so these pedals probably last a lifetime. The are also much more precise than the CH Pedals. Flightsim rig: CPU: AMD 5900x | Mobo: MSI X570 MEG Unify | RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo | GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3090 | Storage: M.2 (2 & 4 TB) | PSU: Corsair RM850x | Case: Fractal Define 7 XL Display: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 | Speakers: Logitech Z906 Controllers: Fulcrum One Yoke | MFG Crosswind v2 pedals | Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant |Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant | Stream Deck XL & Plus | TrackIR 5 Tobii eye tracking
August 10, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, orchestra_nl said: I recommend the Crosswinds. They are sturdy and use hall sensors so these pedals probably last a lifetime. The are also much more precise than the CH Pedals. Hall sensors are the best. I have them in my joystick. Calibrate them once and the setting lasts forever.
August 10, 20214 yr Late to the party, but how could you fly without rudder pedals? The rudder is one of the three primary flight controls! I have the Saitek / Logitech pro flight rudder pedals & they work great. Edited August 10, 20214 yr by FlyingInACessna
August 10, 20214 yr There is a life before and after. You will ask yourself, why in Heavens did I wait 😉? Specially if you fly GA and warbirds and like some handflying. I have had two or CH pedals over the years, good stuff but they get more expensive that they were and the potentiometers wear out after a few years. Now I have the pricier no-contact MFG. These are not cheap but a good controller will last many years. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
August 10, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, devgrp said: I also have thr saitek pedals and haven't used them in about 2 years. I was just thinking about taking them out of the garage since I just got the honeycomb alpha and bravo Yeah same for me only with the difference that I haven't used them for about 4 years. I miss them especially for the DC-6 since it's difficult to break it gradually with just a button on my joystick. Only issue is, I don't have space under my desk since my computer is beneath. This is really annoying. I need to reconsider my setup.
August 10, 20214 yr I used to own the CH yoke and rudder combo. Got rid of both. I got a Thrustmaster HOTAS, with that twisty joystick thingy for rudders. Works just fine.
August 10, 20214 yr It depends on your setup. if you are using a logitech throttle and yoke, yes, getting some form of variable rudder control is a good idea. However, for those that have a rocker on their throttle like on some hotas setups or a flight stick with a twist axis, I find that it isn't as necessary. It's good if you want to be more accurate in terms of controls that pilots use irl and having toe brake axis controls that rudder pedals can offer is a nice thing to have as well. Edited August 10, 20214 yr by Kevin_28
August 10, 20214 yr There are keyboard commands for Rudder Left and Right, they are very touchie and not adjustable. I have a CH Flight Yoke and found I hardly ever use the Prop Angle Axis which is the default in MSFS on the Far right slider. I re-assigned the Rudder to that axis and use up for Left rudder and down for Right rudder. It's quite usable when you find the right Sensitivity setting for that Axis. And it's absolutely essential when manuvering on the ground for all Prop aircraft. Asus Z590 P, Intel i7 10700k, 64gb RAM(3200), nVidia RTX 4070 FE, Windows 10 (21H1), 2tb M.2 nvme ssd, Samsung QN43QN90BA 43" 4K@120hz, Bose Companion 5 speakers, Velocity One Flight Yoke/Quad.
August 10, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, michaelst7 said: I re-assigned the Rudder to that axis and use up for Left rudder and down for Right rudder. It's quite usable when you find the right Sensitivity setting for that Axis. And it's absolutely essential when manuvering on the ground for all Prop aircraft. Yes, that's a good idea; I might try it. I've been using that slider for the carb heat though, so now that will have to be reassigned. We're a slider short on the CH yoke, I think!
August 10, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, orchestra_nl said: I recommend the Crosswinds. They are sturdy and use hall sensors so these pedals probably last a lifetime. The are also much more precise than the CH Pedals. I now agree! And I posted a new topic over in the hardware forum here on Avsim earlier today. "Surrendered to Crosswind 3 Rudder Pedals" . I have been a stickler over the years about harboring with medium priced flight controls instead of the "are you for real" pricing of controls I have seen others extol the virtues of. I am now configured with both Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo and some new Crosswind 3's with a $35 dampener added on. The control is very precise. I am in bliss. I can make the CW3 set tilt a bit from side to side if I fail to rest both feet equally on the pedals, but I got accustomed to that very quickly. The incremental cost between the Saitek Pro Cessna pedals I am retiring and the CW 3's is well worth it. The hall sensors may provide longer life, but I believe the precision in these CW3s is due to the design, not to the sensors. Now if MSFS would just get more reliable....... Soon I hope..... Edited August 10, 20214 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
August 10, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, orchestra_nl said: These CH Pedals are not too bad, I've used them for years but they are quite expensive nowadays, over €200. For €100 more you can buy MFG Crosswind pedals which are excellent. CH pedals have a lot of issues. They sit too flat. They have a very strong centre detent. The springs are too weak. The wires to the brakes are fragile and snap often. They use normal pots that are noisy, often need a dead zone and can require disassembly and cleaning regularly. Also if you ever calibrate them in Windows it really messes them up, You can fix all that (I have done it) but it is a lot of work. Reasonable pedals include MFG Crosswinds, Thrustmaster TPR Pendular and of course Brunner FFBs . Edited August 10, 20214 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick
August 10, 20214 yr Got the MFG V3 too... if i could turn back time i would go for the Virpil tho... MSFS2020, 24, Fenix A320, Ryzen 9 9950X3D, ASUS TUF RTX 5090 ,G.SKILL 64GB 6000MHz CL28
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