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Render scaling, using a 1080p monitor

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2 hours ago, filou said:

I use my 4k monitor and with Render Scaling 70% + Vsync ON 30fps. It's as soft as silk whatever the context.

And all this with my old I7 4790K &  GTX 1080...

it's impressive!!!

I have recently done a fully virgin new MSFS installation and today completed configuration and calibration of flight controls, some of them new. I then went through the video linked below and executed most of the computer system settings recommended in the video.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH2FCmBg7VA&ab_channel=50Fifty

Then I completed just over 5 hours of flying in the G58 Baron with NXi, and while flying experimented with MSFS Graphics settings, incrementing them up a bit at a time until frame rates started to suffer.  Much of that work came while circling over the Chicago area at 4,000 ft. Then I flew over countryside to and over suburban Indianapolis.  I came away astounded!  Later I cruised from KSNA in Orange County, Ca. over KLAX, downtown L.A., up over the mountains to Big Bear, and back over the California inland empire to John Wayne airport.  I believe the only hits to bring frame rates below the constant 30 FPS were higher settings to the two numeric Shadows settings. 

I am posting my resulting settings in the spoiler window below.  My GPU is a 1070 TI 8 GB.  The remainder of my system specs are in my message footer.  I have no OC.  And no CTD or freezes.  At least not today.

Spoiler
Full Screen Resolution 3840 X 2160
Render Scaling 70
V-Sync On
Frame Limit 30 FPS
HRD Off (grayed out)
Global Rendering Quality Custom
   
Anti-Aliasing TAA
Terrain Level of Detail 100
Terrain Vector Data High
   
Buildings Ultra
Trees Ultra
Grass, Bushes Ultra
Objects Level of Detail 120
   
   
Volumetric Clouds Ultra
Texture Resolution Ultra
Anistropic Filtering 8K
Texture Supersampling 4X4
Texture Synthesis High
Water Waves High
Shadow Maps 1024
Terrain Shadows  512
Contact Shadows High
Windshield Effects High
Ambient Occlusion High
Reflections High
Light Shafts High
Bloom On
Depth of Field High
Lens Correction  Off
Lens Flare On
Glass Cockpit Refresh  Medium

 

Edited by fppilot

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

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As of SU5, I would recommend setting the two LOD sliders to 200.

Edited by Bert Pieke

Bert

I too have a 1080p monitor and have settled on render scaling of 120.   It's a nice balance.  150 looked amazing but the stutters arrived (GTX1080 user). Render scaling at 100 is absolutely butter smooth, but as Bert said, the NXi becomes just that little more fuzzy, so I settled on the comprimize of 120.

BTW, I did a lot of experimenting today, to see the differences in both quality and performance, between using comparable Render Scale settings in MSFS, versus DSR settings in Nvidia Control Panel.     ......very interesting results.

With a 1080p monitor........   No DSR and Render Scaling at 120, looks identical to DSR at 1.2 and no Render Scaling (as you'd expect, they both 'simulate' a 2304x1296 resolution) ......... BUT....... performance was significantly better when not using Nvidia DSR, and just using MSFS's Render Scaling.

Sitting in an identical scenario (the default C172 G1000, on Runway 07 at EGNT), with the same other MSFS Graphics settings, here were the figures:-

  • DSR at 1.2 and Render Scaling at 100 = 31 FPS
  • DSR OFF and Render Scaling at 120 = 46 FPS

In other words...... avoid DSR like the plague and use Render Scaling to get better visual quality, if you have a sub-4k monitor.

Edited by JYW
I spelled "Render" as "Redner" once, and it was hurting my OCD.

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53 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

As of SU5, I would recommend setting the two LOD sliders to 200.

OK.  I am editing my previous message and the settings.  I just flew with full 4K res and lowered render scaling to 70 and it all got even somewhat better.  Still maintained 30 fps with quite a number of scenery addons, including the hand crafted addon downtown LA area scenery.

Edited by fppilot

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

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18 minutes ago, fppilot said:

I just flew with full 4K res and lowered render scaling to 70

Sounds like you are on your way...

ps. try LOD settings as well

Bert

10 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Sounds like you are on your way...

ps. try LOD settings as well

Doing that now.  Downtown LA came into view much earlier.  Still a bit behind the realistic distance.  I've been there in a v-tail before so knowledgeable.  If fact my office in Torrance for 12 years afforded a nice view of downtown LA.  Flew over the building a few minutes ago with LOD's at 200 and DT LA was not in view for another minute or two.
 

NXi is very welcome improvement in most respects.  As you and I well know there is still more to be added.  And it is very nice to have the ability to go Ultra on clouds.  Still longing for 3rd party help.

Edited by fppilot

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

Running render scaling at about 80% to get FPS above 25. Anything above that had too many stutters and lower FPS to unacceptable level. 100% looks much better but just isn't feasible coupled with high(er) settings on older machine with 1060 6GB card. 

Edited by Flyfaster_MTN002

SAR Pilot. Flight Sim'ing since the beginning.

I am using a 3060 GPU , and before SU5 my settings were: Render Scale 200 and 80 both LODs, having a medium perfomance with some few stutters, and blurry far ground textures. After SU5 I set Render Scale to 170 and 200 both LODs , Anisotropic Filtering at 16 both in the NvCPanel and MSFS options, and have now a great better performance without stutters. and excelent quality and sharp far ground textures

I dont know why but DSR is grayed out at my NvCPanel  (Driver 466.74)

18 minutes ago, solito said:

I dont know why but DSR is grayed out at my NvCPanel  (Driver 466.74)

What is DSR?  I see two references to it in recent posts.

Edited by fppilot

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

56 minutes ago, fppilot said:

What is DSR?  I see two references to it in recent posts.

 
Dynamic Super Resolution from Nvidia. Google knows all!   😉

Al

5 hours ago, filou said:

I use my 4k monitor and with Render Scaling 70% + Vsync ON 30fps. It's as soft as silk whatever the context.

And all this with my old I7 4790K &  GTX 1080...

it's impressive!!!

And your screenshots look way better than ppl with new GPU... lol

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On my 1080p monitor I set render scale at 125 (2400x1350) and frames locked at 30, but the GPU utilization on my RTX3080 stays at about 40% whether I put render scaling at 100 or even 150. The only difference is my GPU temperature goes up by about 10-degrees, from 60-70C to 70-80C. Never could figure that out.

The big difference with render scaling up around 120 or 150 is much crisper and easier to read gauges and cockpit labels in most (but not all) aircraft.  Higher render scaling really helps in the cockpit.

Personally I have seen no notable improvement on the graphics outside the cockpit. The scenery is probably better but not in a way that stands out to me.

 

8 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

Nope.. 😉

Edit: Lower, maybe?

i run RS 140 with my 55 4k tv , the instruments get blurry below 100 and 120 seems like a sweetspot if you have the pc power to run it , think i see the same as you  when turn up the RS

8 hours ago, fppilot said:

I have recently done a fully virgin new MSFS installation and today completed configuration and calibration of flight controls, some of them new. I then went through the video linked below and executed most of the computer system settings recommended in the video.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH2FCmBg7VA&ab_channel=50Fifty

Then I completed just over 5 hours of flying in the G58 Baron with NXi, and while flying experimented with MSFS Graphics settings, incrementing them up a bit at a time until frame rates started to suffer.  Much of that work came while circling over the Chicago area at 4,000 ft. Then I flew over countryside to and over suburban Indianapolis.  I came away astounded!  Later I cruised from KSNA in Orange County, Ca. over KLAX, downtown L.A., up over the mountains to Big Bear, and back over the California inland empire to John Wayne airport.  I believe the only hits to bring frame rates below the constant 30 FPS were higher settings to the two numeric Shadows settings. 

I am posting my resulting settings in the spoiler window below.  My GPU is a 1070 TI 8 GB.  The remainder of my system specs are in my message footer.  I have no OC.  And no CTD or freezes.  At least not today.

  Hide contents
Full Screen Resolution 3840 X 2160
Render Scaling 70
V-Sync On
Frame Limit 30 FPS
HRD Off (grayed out)
Global Rendering Quality Custom
   
Anti-Aliasing TAA
Terrain Level of Detail 100
Terrain Vector Data High
   
Buildings Ultra
Trees Ultra
Grass, Bushes Ultra
Objects Level of Detail 120
   
   
Volumetric Clouds Ultra
Texture Resolution Ultra
Anistropic Filtering 8K
Texture Supersampling 4X4
Texture Synthesis High
Water Waves High
Shadow Maps 1024
Terrain Shadows  512
Contact Shadows High
Windshield Effects High
Ambient Occlusion High
Reflections High
Light Shafts High
Bloom On
Depth of Field High
Lens Correction  Off
Lens Flare On
Glass Cockpit Refresh  Medium

 

It is perfect apart from the setting of the clouds. Between High and Ultra it is 10 fps of difference. If you want to fly comfortably in any situation of the real weather I advise you to put on High.

Buildings / Trees / Grass I advise you to put on High . Incredible comfort in major Airports.

Objets Level of Detail 100

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