Navigraph Charts or Simbrief?

[Agrajag 286]

I've been wanting to consider making a switch to simply the already-complex process of preparing for a flight. I end up having to use several tools for different things.

I use Simbrief to build my routes (for use in the CRJ FMS) and then a sight like AirNav to get my elevation data and such (which I still can't seem to find in SimBrief) and I also pay for Navigraph Charts so I often will use that as my moving map.

Am I over-complicating things here? Can I get all of what I need in just one of them?

[Twenty6 693]

Aivlasoft EFB

[Agrajag 286]

3 minutes ago, Twenty6 said:

Aivlasoft EFB

Nice looking software....

[Bobsk8 12,750]

Avliasoft EFB, it has everything you need. and you can use Simbrief with it.  

Edited October 27, 2021 by Bobsk8

[Agrajag 286]

Looking at it now. It seems to require running both a server and a client and their trial is annoyingly trying to get to a time server that it can't reach (researching now) so I can't get into it to try it.

Edited October 27, 2021 by Agrajag

[duckbilled 310]

I create my flights in Simbrief, and use Navigraph Charts on a separate pc - similar to what you do, It works for me.

[Shack95 2,658]

55 minutes ago, Twenty6 said:

Aivlasoft EFB

That looks interesting. What exactly is the difference to Navigraph charts apart from the design? No subscription, just 59.- once? Is is usable in VR?

[Nyxx 6,993]

I use navigraph as I like to use it for MSFS nav data, I also love having Navigraph on my iPad for charts and it followes your flight. I have tried others but the navigraph app is the best imho.

Navigraph is also built into simbrief as its own by Navigraph.

Edited October 27, 2021 by Nyxx

[Twenty6 693]

24 minutes ago, Shack95 said:

That looks interesting. What exactly is the difference to Navigraph charts apart from the design? No subscription, just 59.- once? Is is usable in VR?

Never used Navigraph Charts so can't help you there. Also don't use VR at all.Strike two!

Sorry I'm no help.

[Agrajag 286]

Just now, Nyxx said:

I use navigraph as I like to use it for MSFS nav data, I also love having Navigraph on my iPad for charts and it followes your flight. I have tried other but the navigraph app is the best imho.

I'm always impressed with Navigraph's software, but will give the demo period a try for EFB2. So far it's been VERY similar.

[RJC68 823]

1 hour ago, duckbilled said:

I create my flights in Simbrief, and use Navigraph Charts on a separate pc - similar to what you do, It works for me.

I do the exact same thing and run Navigraph charts on my other PC. Sometimes I find getting the Star/Approach can be a little confusing so I have LittleNavMap as a backup. I would prefer if when you viewed the Stars/approaches you could view one at a time so the display was a little less cluttered.

I still have EFB from my FSX days but haven't used it for years. There is also SimToolKitPro which is free.

[Mikeingreen 139]

I used to run Navigraph Charts on my iPad but I am now using the In-Game Panel instead. It works just fine and is just a mouse click away in your virtual cockpit

[HiFlyer 9,363]

Eh..... The complexity was diverting for a while, but now its kind of a chore.

But.... I paid for navigraph as an experiment, and while I have it, I just create my flight plane there and hit the export button to load it into the plane. This even works on the default plane.

Alternately, I create a plan with the sims built-in planner, then open the navigraph panel.

It detects the default flight plan and loads it, and then "smooths" it.

When I export it back into the sim its as smooth and curvy a plan as the Flybywire experimental could do, and it works on all planes, so....

Smooooooth curves on the default A320, and it follows the plan perfectly.

[duckbilled 310]

39 minutes ago, RJC68 said:

I do the exact same thing and run Navigraph charts on my other PC. Sometimes I find getting the Star/Approach can be a little confusing so I have LittleNavMap as a backup. I would prefer if when you viewed the Stars/approaches you could view one at a time so the display was a little less cluttered.

I still have EFB from my FSX days but haven't used it for years. There is also SimToolKitPro which is free.

I find this confusing sometimes as well. Sometimes I have issues, and other times I don't. I'm sure it has something to do with my workflow or my lack of experience with real-world navigation. I typically fly the FBW A320.

I create the flight in Simbrief and usually use the runways and route selected my Simbrief,

When I import the route into Navigraph charts, it does include the SID and the STAR, but the approach isn't defined. This is where I can run into issues when the STAR doesn't connect to the approach This wasn't a big deal in P3D for me with the NGX, because I could easily select the next waypoint or delete the extraneous waypoints. Not sue if it is Simbrief, the aircraft, or user error, but I find this incredibly frustrating, and I just gave up trying to clean this up in the MCDU on my last flight. 

If anyone know of a video that shows you how to delete waypoints contained in a STAR or Approach, let me know. All of the ones I have found seem to gloss over the specific steps for modify lightplanes imported from Simbrief when things don't import cleanly.

[regis9 4,016]

If you are referring to airport elevation, that information is available in Navigraph charts.

Usually in planning a flight I’ll use FlightAware to find a current airline flight to mimic, then use Simbrief on one screen and Navigraph charts on the other to set up the flight…the charts are just for reference / airport familiarity, I could get by without them largely in the planning of the flight.

Once I’m flying I leave Navigraph Charts on my second screen so I have all of that information at my finger tips.  I used to use my ipad for charts which worked as well but the second screen really is great.