Yeah, the title is deliberate clickbait..ha ha. 

At any rate, the ifly series of 737 jets was one of my favorite addons for P3D - a terrific package, terrifically priced. 

I did some digging around to see whether they had anything in the pipeline for MSFS 2020 and only found this:

https://fselite.net/news/ifly-is-back-with-jets-advanced-series-the-737ng/

Quote:

"... iFly is looking into development for Microsoft Flight Simulator, they say it’s too early right now as it “does not yet offer all the features and flight modelling that iFly can work with.”

If Ifly were to release their package for MSFS 2020, that would be a day 1 purchase for me.

 

If they ever release it for MSFS it would be great if they will also release their Cockpit builders Edition …

anybody heard anything more on this?  I think it's obvious competition has been good on the airbus side of the house.  We could use it on the 737 side.  

I was a huge fan of ifly's 737 addon. Fantastic value for the money. If ifly were to come out with a version for MSFS, PMDG would seriously need to up their game. 

25 minutes ago, micstatic said:

We could use need it on the 737 Boeing side.

Fixed that for you.

Without getting into a laundry list of criticisms of PMDG, there are reasons why there has been a lot of very public and animated commentary about the company - an awful lot of it is wholly justified, IMO.

While there are plenty of people happy with their latest iteration of the 737 in MSFS, the hobby would be better placed with a developer who is more like Fenix (gives only occasional updates of substance, positive about the development parameters they work within, looks to advance the flight sim hobby with new levels of detail, plus, responds quickly and positively to feedback).
Maybe PMDG could return to what they were back in the FS9 days, but there needs to be a substantial boot to their backside in the form of high-quality competition.

16 minutes ago, F737MAX said:

While there are plenty of people happy with their latest iteration of the 737 in MSFS, the hobby would be better placed with a developer who is more like Fenix (gives only occasional updates of substance, positive about the development parameters they work within, looks to advance the flight sim hobby with new levels of detail, plus, responds quickly and positively to feedback).
Maybe PMDG could return to what they were back in the FS9 days, but there needs to be a substantial boot to their backside in the form of high-quality competition.

Indeed, almost every update from RSR is just about blaming Asobo without being positive and try new things. But to be honest, we need new fresh developers like Fenix, fresh and open mind and not stubborn like some developers from FSX and P3D.

amen.  @omarsmak30     If I'm going to buy the same airplane over and over from platform to platform, it better stay at the top of its game. 

22 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

Indeed, almost every update from RSR is just about blaming Asobo without being positive and try new things. But to be honest, we need new fresh developers like Fenix, fresh and open mind and not stubborn like some developers from FSX and P3D.

Very well said,  new, fresh and dynamic that is the keyword..

cheers 😉

Edited June 6, 20224 yr by pmplayer

Seems there Focusing on P3D and the "MAX"

https://fsnews.eu/ifly-737-max-for-prepar3d-in-active-development/?fbclid=IwAR1NzhH4eYQBncfgpRHhvGDTH9mhKsHFXmFWCAo5TqcqwmV5ygDFf6-QW4k

Edited June 6, 20224 yr by Nyxx

I have the IFly 737 package for FSX way back in the day and it is an excellent package.  At the time I debated the PMDG or IFly route and chose IFly.  It turned out the PMDG was a little more popular as far as repaints go but the enjoyment I was getting out of the IFly package was high enough that I never jumped ship.  I also like how with the click of a button you could turn on or off the brow windows or winglets.  Select different engine options etc.  IFly has recently created a great package for P3D that adds the 2 winglet options or still no winglets.  If MSFS did not exist I would own this latest package from IFly.

The PMDG 737-700 for MSFS is also a pretty good package.  Not perfect yet but pretty good.  What I have an issue with is its far from complete and the extreme arrogance from the PMDG developers.  Its how it is and how its going to be instead of working to satisfy the wishes of the community and those paying for the product.  For a company that touted itself as complete and realistic they are currently far from it.  For the premium they are charging its really not good that they don't have a complete package.  I am not talking about all versions in one package but all variants should be available in each package they sell.

For example the 700 does not include a non winglet model for those that wish to fly without them and remember these planes were originally delivered without them and operated for years before they got upgraded.  So for historical painters you are SOL.  Some of these older frames first off the assembly line can't be upgraded and have not.  Yes, PMDG is correct that by now most 700's have been upgraded but this is short sided.  This only is okay in the now and not for the completeness of the product.  MSFS offers historical opportunity so simply providing a non winglet model would offer those who wish to do so.

The irony is I have sneaking suspicion they did in fact model it.  This would have been realistic thing to do during the model building process and then create the winglet versions after.  Not much different then real life actually just done virtually.  However for whatever reason they chose not to release it in this package.  Will it come later as an update?  Maybe or maybe not and some rumors and even subtle statements from the development crew say it will come from a later update but then other statements saying no its not.  Considering PMDG's track record here its doubtful the 700 or for that matter the 800 or 900 will ever come with a non winglet model.  

I am hoping that IFly creates a 737NG package for MSFS that is far more complete and has more options then what PMDG is offering.  IFly is also supposedly working on a MAX for P3D and I imagine if they can engineer the NG package to work in MSFS the same can be said for the MAX.  All PMDG would have to do is tell me the non winglet models are coming in a later update and I would never think about going IFly.  However until they do I will keep IFly on the back burner and have a serious look when IFly releases its MSFS product. 

I guess the non winglet models take too much time to create and its not just the physical modeling but tweaking of the flight dynamics they say.  Really for a company like PMDG this is not really an issue and the tweaks are not that extensive for someone who knows the internal workings of the flight model they created.  Most of all this is a rather expensive payware product and it looks like PMDG did rather well with it.  Taking a guess they made around 1.5 million on the 700 alone.  They should all be extremely happy to satisfy the desires of the community especially something as simple as creating a non winglet model.  This is small potatoes compared to the fixes they have to accomplish in order to continue delivering a viable product.

Lets see what the competition will bring!

    

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, F737MAX said:

Maybe PMDG could return to what they were back in the FS9 days

PMDG reached their peak in FS9, then rested on their laurels and recycled....and recycled....and recycled.

I had the iFly version for FSX and the P3D upgrade price was an excellent value.

I bought the PMDG 737 for MSFS on day. PMDG needs to re-consider their pricing structure for more variants otherwise all I'm getting is their 777 and that's it.

3 minutes ago, DJJose said:

I had the iFly version for FSX and the P3D upgrade price was an excellent value.

I bought the PMDG 737 for MSFS on day. PMDG needs to re-consider their pricing structure for more variants otherwise all I'm getting is their 777 and that's it.

I only flew the 777F becasue Ive never like long flights or using time xX. So the F was perfect. I like the 777 more than the 8F, I would "think" about buying the 777F but not the 747 again. The 757 I would, perfect for F and diffrent.

1 hour ago, DJJose said:

I bought the PMDG 737 for MSFS on day. PMDG needs to re-consider their pricing structure for more variants otherwise all I'm getting is their 777 and that's it.

I agree about the variant pricing. I too got the 700 on launch day and I really like flying it. But I'm not particularly bothered about the 600 and unless the 800 is significantly cheaper for those who already own the 700 then I'm not sure if I'll go for that either. It's not enough 'new plane' to justify paying the same again for.. and let's face it most of us have owned these planes in some form or another in sims of the past already anyway.

Agreed about needing more competition for the Boeing birds... for those of you who know more details of the licensing/agreement history between Boeing and PMDG, can you elaborate what exactly that was about? i.e. practically speaking, how is PMDG advantaged vs other devs when it comes to Boeing aircrafts given whatever agreement they have with each other?