2 hours ago, briansommers said:

I would gladly fly the Asobo PC-6 but my problem is I can't start it up.

Are you all getting it to start?

If so, how?

It doesn't even work with CTRL+e for me.

I can get the prop to spin but it doesn't fire

don't forget to turn the fuel valve down by your left knee. try that before flipping the 4 switches in the middle (ignition, pump, etc). Should start right up

I'm not really sure why it seems we keep expecting study level aircraft when Asobo has pretty much made it clear both verbally and with their actual offerings over the last year or so that they have no great intentions of doing that.

 

 

18 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

I'm not really sure why it seems we keep expecting study level aircraft when Asobo has pretty much made it clear both verbally and with their actual offerings over the last year or so that they have no great intentions of doing that.

 

 

it's actually a lot better than I expected. most of the switches work. things react mostly as expected. just wish they'd let you open the dang doors how hard can it be 😄

3 minutes ago, dresoccer4 said:

it's actually a lot better than I expected. most of the switches work. things react mostly as expected. just wish they'd let you open the dang doors how hard can it be 😄

Well it's missing critical gauges. If you want to know how different the PC-6 compare to Milviz. Try to follow this checklist https://fsprocedures.com/index.php/pilatus-pc-6/ This was taken from the Milvinz Checklist documentation. Just check how far you can follow it.

31 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

I'm not really sure why it seems we keep expecting study level aircraft when Asobo has pretty much made it clear both verbally and with their actual offerings over the last year or so that they have no great intentions of doing that.

 

 

True, I’m happy with them just getting the simulation world right and aircraft by others…but some things should just not be released and the pc-6 should have just been left in the oven on high. But I guess for casual simmers/gamers it does the trick.

Edited November 19, 20214 yr by flyinpilot212121

29 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

Well it's missing critical gauges. If you want to know how different the PC-6 compare to Milviz. Try to follow this checklist https://fsprocedures.com/index.php/pilatus-pc-6/ This was taken from the Milvinz Checklist documentation. Just check how far you can follow it.

For me at least, this not an issue. I suspect strongly that except for the type of super-enthusiasts you might find at sites like this, very few actual users will ever get that involved to that degree with this airplane, and even of the few who do, I again suspect they'll probably either (rather quickly) come up with a their own severely abbreviated checklists, or they will simply hit control-E

For those who demand more....

Milviz is there.

Edited November 19, 20214 yr by HiFlyer

1 minute ago, HiFlyer said:

For me at least, this not not an issue. I suspect strongly that except for the type of super-enthusiasts you might find at sites like this, very few actual users will ever get that involved to that degree with this airplane, and even of the few who do, I again suspect they'll probably either (rather quickly) come up with a their own severely abbreviated checklists, or they will simply hit control-E

For those who demand more....

Milviz is there.

You are not wrong but I guess it's great to have a complete list.I am working on a companion app for the checklist but it's all I can say for now. It should be very interesting.

It seems that there is a double speech : on one side, the sim is supposed to be tailored for casual gamers (unfortunately and wrongly assimilated to "anything goes gamers") and on the other hand, it is supposed to give the taste  of aviation to a new generation. But I am rambling here 😀. Back to topic. 

It is not complicated and very mildly technical and fun to open a valve, start the battery, start the avionics, switch the starter,  check that the oil is coming up, see the prop turning, switch ignition, look at Ng and switch the condition lever etc  etc.(I hope I didn't forget anything !).  It takes less than a minute and gives some satisfaction (I did it, look Mum the prop is turning ). No need of a Ph. D. and you start to understand the beast under your buttock.

 

4 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

It seems that there is a double speech : on one side, the sim is supposed to be tailored for casual gamers (unfortunately and wrongly assimilated to "anything goes gamers") and on the other hand, it is supposed to give the taste  of aviation to a new generation. But I am rambling here 😀. Back to topic. 

It is not complicated and very mildly technical and fun to open a valve, start the battery, start the avionics, switch the starter,  check that the oil is coming up, see the prop turning, switch ignition, look at Ng and switch the condition lever etc  etc.(I hope I didn't forget anything !).  It takes less than a minute and gives some satisfaction (I did it, look Mum the prop is turning ). No need of a Ph. D. and you start to understand the beast under your buttock.

 

Gives it more a sense of having a moving, working, breathing machine under the hood. But I guess some like the ctrl e and get going. 

There are at least two types of people attracted to something like MSFS.

Broadly speaking, they are those who wish to be (real) pilots, and those who wish to pretend to be pilots for a bit, and mostly for curiosity or fun. There should be room for both, but for some reason, there almost always seems to be friction....

And generally not from the casuals, who again, broadly speaking, could not possibly care less what the enthusiasts are going on about.

My biggest problem with default PC-6 is that if I bind Honeycomb Bravo axis or mixture axis it absolutely have no effect on conditioner leverage

Asobo seem to have become convinced that Condition Levers are switches not axis so they have messed up the binding in the process of doing whatever they are doing to them.

38 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

My biggest problem with default PC-6 is that if I bind Honeycomb Bravo axis or mixture axis it absolutely have no effect on conditioner leverage

I noticed that too.  I think that's a bug that should be reported.

I think with a few things fixed here and there, the Asobo PC-6 is all right, and I say that having some hours on the Milviz PC-6 both in MSFS and in P3D.  If you want more out of your PC-6 than the Asobo one, you pay more for the aftermarket PC-6 (soon to bePC-6's if the FSG one appears).

In my view it becomes a matter of opinion as to what is "all right" for a default aircraft.  Some think a default should have x, y, and z working.  Others think a,b, and c are needed.  There is no right or wrong answer on that.

Why not just relax a bit and wait? I'm very certain that the Asobo one will get a great community mod down the line. Once modded, it will definitely be able to compete with the payware options...

3 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

My biggest problem with default PC-6 is that if I bind Honeycomb Bravo axis or mixture axis it absolutely have no effect on conditioner leverage

I found that too, a bit annoying to have to use the mouse to cut the engine.

That and the static disc they have replaced the propeller with are the only 2 major issues I have with it. It's a freebie and does enough to make me feel no need to buy a more sophisticated version. And, as has been said, mods will likely follow...