I wonder whether MSFS is our toy or the Asobo engineers toy. They tweak, tweak, tweak what MS  sold us without our consentment, making the result mandatory. They remind me of the French bureaucrats inventing new rules all the time to legitimate their existence.

I was annoyed by P3D constant updates and HF. MS has brought this mania to new heights.

The kid in me says : Couldn’t you let us play alone in our sandbox  for a while 🤣 ? 

3 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

I wonder whether MSFS is our toy or the Asobo engineers toy. They tweak, tweak, tweak what MS  sold us without our consentment, making the result mandatory. They remind me of the French bureaucrats inventing new rules all the time to legitimate their existence.

I was annoyed by P3D constant updates and HF. MS has brought this mania to new heights.

The kid in me says : Couldn’t you let us play alone in our sandbox  for a while 🤣 ? 

I think you're right.

Many things have change in this update and we have no explanation or justification from Asobo. For instance, I can't switch views from the numeric pad, instead now the keys change the rudder! I have pedals, so I don't need the rudder in my numeric pad, but it is very convenient to have access to the views from the keyboard. I deleted the new settings in the numeric pad from Asobo, but now I don't know how configure my views as before!

I wish there is an option in the menu to return to the personal settings in aspects like this. 

Regards.

 

 

Well there is at least one other simulator available in which usually nothing changes for years. Just saying 😉 

5 minutes ago, rka said:

Well there is at least one other simulator available in which usually nothing changes for years. Just saying 😉 

Not changing for years and changing 13 times in 15 months, I’d settle for something in between 😉

8 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

Not changing for years and changing 13 times in 15 months, I’d settle for something in between 😉

This.

Or at least implement some QC in order to make sure that each change is for the better. 

I actually don't mind the update schedule.  It is a breath of fresh air from where we have come (FSX) where we had 2 small updates during the entire lifespan of the sim - and despite more frequent updates, P3D left a lot to be desired.   Annoying it may me, but that is the price of progress.  Prefer a fully committed, active and transparent development team.  I am also glad this is in the hands of an external gaming developer rather than in-house MS

These days I look at updates and releases for P3D and XP and I almost feel sorry for them

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Guess you can't win as a developer. Never update and they complain. Rarely update and they complain. Update too often and they complain. Missing features and bugs they complain. Attempt at fixing them and they complain. 🙂

Common … with P3D we tweaked for years… 😩

29 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

Not changing for years and changing 13 times in 15 months, I’d settle for something in between 😉

That's right of course. I'd guess though that the patch intervals will be getting longer once a certain level is reached in the sim.

It's the journey to the destination gent's.  With that said they have given us some free stuff too for our patience.  And going from an FSX GOLD with a decked out ORBX and ActiveSky and a list of other stuff etc etc.  I think this is gonna turn out to be one hell of a sim when it's all done. We just gotta be patient.  lol With all that said I can't say I haven't been cussing along the way. But I usually keep it locked down & standby to standby 😉

                                                          Happy Landings & Plenty of Cussing along the way Cheers All

                                                                                                 Josh

 

3 hours ago, z06z33 said:

My point was people overreacting saying the sim is unplayable at this point without TrackIR...

 

7 minutes ago, rka said:

That's right of course. I'd guess though that the patch intervals will be getting longer once a certain level is reached in the sim.

lets hope so, but we are far form that level.

3 minutes ago, rka said:

I'd guess though that the patch intervals will be getting longer once a certain level is reached in the sim.

I guess so too. Here we have a French team that has never been involved in anything remotely similar to flightsimulation. And then we have a German who runs within MS the FS department. From what I have read, he was also new to FS. On a more postive note, they listen to us, they are willing to learn. Never in the past had we (the community) so much access to the core developer team. That they sometimes give us the feeling that they don't understand what we are talking about can be attritubuted to a certain degree of inexperience dealing with a bunch of guys like us. The poor Asobo team has to please two masters, Microsoft and us. It's not easy, so I am more than willing to give them a bit of slack.  😉

7 minutes ago, wim123 said:

 

lets hope so, but we are far form that level.

Also true, so we should basically welcome updates.

1 hour ago, Dominique_K said:

I wonder whether MSFS is our toy or the Asobo engineers toy. They tweak, tweak, tweak what MS  sold us without our consentment, making the result mandatory. They remind me of the French bureaucrats inventing new rules all the time to legitimate their existence.

I was annoyed by P3D constant updates and HF. MS has brought this mania to new heights.

The kid in me says : Couldn’t you let us play alone in our sandbox  for a while 🤣 ? 

You must be new to videogames (including all our "simulators"), this is the norm and the avsim user have generally being spoiled by the too long stability caused by FSX and its abandoment. This is normal and beneficial for us all.

1 hour ago, Sethos said:

Guess you can't win as a developer. Never update and they complain. Rarely update and they complain. Update too often and they complain. Missing features and bugs they complain. Attempt at fixing them and they complain. 🙂

If you don’t like heat, don’t be a cook

 

1 hour ago, ErichB said:

I actually don't mind the update schedule.  I

During the much maligned FSX big freeze and because of it, the simulator environment  has known a spectacular and positive transformation. The A2A, PMDG, Orbx and all the top tier developers had a stable platform to work with (and sometimes bypass 😀) and really then became what they are now. 

I am all for some updates, one  every 6 months, well crafted, would be perfect, but almost an update a month looks to me more like a frenzied brownian motion than progress.

I want to play my sim not test Asobo’s inventiveness. 
 

 

 

 

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