February 17, 20224 yr Recently updated my gaming laptop to Windows 10 version 21H2 from version 21H1 and applied several windows updates that were available. Few days after I started noticing the laptop was very sluggish and that it took a few seconds with the famous rotating wheel to open any application, like Firefox, MS Office, MSFS (plus an unexplained CTD once when loading up to the first screen), etc. Investigating on the issue and looking for help on the net, discovered an application that was causing the issues: it's called "Nahimic Audio Services", that normally runs in the background and supposedly helps in delivering a better audio quality on top of your audio devices. So, I disabled it via the Windows System Configuration App by deselecting it from the running applications and problem solved, my laptop is fast as always have been. Just to share the experience in case someone is having a similar issue. Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
February 17, 20224 yr I must admit that I have suspected that this program causes issues for some time. At one time, I removed it but it came back again (probably when I installed a new driver). I must remember to delete it again next time I use my PC. Ryzen 5800X3D, Nvidia RTX5080 - 32 Gig DDR4 RAM, 1TB & 2 TB NVME drives - Windows 11 64 bit MSFS 2024 Premium Deluxe Edition Resolution 2560 x 1440 (32 inch curved monitor)
February 17, 20224 yr See here (may need login). : https://forum.orbxdirect.com/topic/212476-finished-with-fs2020-orbx-for-other-flightsims/?tab=comments#comment-1798191 I'll investigate when I find time. Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
February 17, 20224 yr At one point this service prevented the sim from starting. I use an external dac anyway so I uninstalled the program that uses it. In my case Sonic Studio 3 Edited February 17, 20224 yr by Maxis AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
February 17, 20224 yr I have never seen this , sounds like some kind of bloatware that PC maker installs. . Edited February 17, 20224 yr by Bobsk8
February 17, 20224 yr It seems to get installed with a recent windows update depending on your motherboard sound chip type. Voice attack mentions it as a possible conflicting application and suggests removing or disabling it
February 17, 20224 yr This program is known to cause trouble with all kinds of programs, including e.g. VATSpy or Qutescoop.
February 17, 20224 yr I checked and it's not running on my system. Sometimes, an old machine may have an advantage.😉 Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
February 17, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, pmb said: See here (may need login). : https://forum.orbxdirect.com/topic/212476-finished-with-fs2020-orbx-for-other-flightsims/?tab=comments#comment-1798191 I'll investigate when I find time. Kind regards, Michael Michael, thats a very useful link. Thanks
February 17, 20224 yr Author 1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said: I have never seen this , sounds like some kind of bloatware that PC maker installs. . It usually comes packed with MSI and ASUS MotherBoards and related Apps. Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
February 17, 20224 yr 26 minutes ago, edpatino said: It usually comes packed with MSI and ASUS MotherBoards and related Apps. Correct. And it's an absolute pain in the word not allowed to get rid of, too.
February 17, 20224 yr Fortunately for some reason I didn't have the dreaded companion app, so I just blocked the execution of the Nahimic Services via Windows system configuration. After restart, the whole system felt snappier. Firefox e.g. definetly starts way quicker now. Edited February 17, 20224 yr by -Belga-
February 17, 20224 yr Seems like sound drivers/devices/settings can have a big impact. There was the recent issue in Sim Update beta causing FPS loss that was attributed to the sound settings. I also picked this issue up with another item - I have a pair of Dolby surround sound USB headphones that require a driver to work. Once I installed that, there was an immediate FPS loss in the sim, not much but noticeable. It was the only change I had made to the PC between sim sessions so it was the obvious starting point. Removing the driver proved it was the culprit. This is a RIG 500 USB headphones. I can still use the headphones without the driver, but I don’t get the Dolby surround sound features. The issue affecting FPS in MSFS was there regardless whether the headphones were plugged in or not. The driver was starting with Windows. Of course, maybe we should be blaming this on Asobo if this problem is not limited to just one ‘software’ supplier…. So, if you have some sort of surround sound system software/hardware on your pc, maybe your MSFS FPS is suffering and you don’t even realise it. And yes, Nahimic is an unnecessary bloatware app. If Microsoft is installing it with Windows update… that’s plain naughty! Never let Windows Update take control of your driver updates. Edited February 17, 20224 yr by RaptyrOne GregH Intel Core i7 14700K / Palit RTX4070Ti Super OC / Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 MHz / MSI Z790 M/board / Corsair NVMe 9500 read, 8500 write / Corsair PSU1200W / CH Products Yoke, Pedals & Quad; Airbus Side Stick, Airbus Quadrant / TrackIR, 32” 4K 144hz 1ms Monitor
February 17, 20224 yr Author 1 hour ago, spacedyemeerkat said: Correct. And it's an absolute pain in the word not allowed to get rid of, too. Best is to disable it through the System Configuration App in Windows Administrative Tools (and deselect the item from the left menu). Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
February 17, 20224 yr 21 minutes ago, edpatino said: Best is to disable it through the System Configuration App in Windows Administrative Tools (and deselect the item from the left menu). Indeed. However, it returns, despite clearing out the driver store, too. Lots of research into it on the web. It's utterly insidious and should be considered malware, frankly. Edited February 17, 20224 yr by spacedyemeerkat
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