1 hour ago, harrry said:

My post is from the FAA.  It acknowledges that the controllers must accept POINT as it is used by all ICAO aircraft as a requirement.

Not all aircraft are N registered

I'm an air traffic controller in the USA.  We don't use the word decimal.  We even tell international carriers "contact xyz center on 133 point 4"  If they respond using decimal that's fine.  We understand it's the same.

I'm gonna rebel against authority and make mine say "DOT" 😁

 Canadian ATC here and we are supposed to use the ICAO phraseology of decimal, but it's also ok to not use anything in its place. "Contact ground 1,2,7,1,5" which is my preferred way. On a comms check which are done every few months we would get docked points for using anything other than mentioned above.

In Brazil we say the ICAO "decimal", or is implicit.

What I miss is the Airline call signs that we were able to edit and upload into FSX and accelerate the ATC speech. What Asorbo needs to do is allow outside 3rd party people to takeover the terrible ATC part of FS2020. It would give a more  realistic experience.

Edited March 10, 20224 yr by Bigmack

16 minutes ago, Bigmack said:

What I miss is the Airline call signs that we were able to edit and upload into FSX and accelerate the ATC speech. What Asorbo needs to do is allow outside 3rd party people to takeover the terrible ATC part of FS2020. It would give a more  realistic experience.

Now you've done it!  You woke me up on another phrase/label used by MSFS ATC.

"Generic"

I am very soon going to check on this method to eradicate "generic" in favor of something more acceptable.  Ideas quickly coming to mind:

Pilot
Rookie (LOL)
Student
Unidentified
Unknown
Commercial 
Heavy
Tubeliner
Boeing
Airbus

Only issue is it likely needs to be a voiced word or phrase that currently exists in MSFS.

Working Title is apparently supposed to start an overhaul of the flight plan system this year with changes to ATC to work with it.

I've been using the built in ATC since launch, have had very little issues with it. Other than the 3-4 month period where it was reading altimeter data wrong and thinking player aircraft were at the wrong altitude when I wasn't, but everyone had that.

I also the default ATC in FSX and P3D all the time. I'm not a real pilot, so I don't notice any of the wrong phrases or all that.

Edited March 10, 20224 yr by Tuskin38

3 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

Other than the 3-4 month period where it was reading altimeter data wrong and thinking player aircraft were at the wrong altitude when I wasn't, but everyone had that.

It still does that if ATC instructs you to 18000. I fly Low Altitude Airways so often get instructed to 18000ft. Once there ATC still gives you QNH but then berates you for being below your assigned altitude. If you set standard pressure like you should then problem gone. I don't know if they got it wrong in their programing ( >18 instead of =>18 ) or what, but if you're instructed to climb to 18000 ft you will still receive QNH from ATC controllers while the sim will expect you to use STD.

12 hours ago, Phantoms said:

It still does that if ATC instructs you to 18000. I fly Low Altitude Airways so often get instructed to 18000ft. Once there ATC still gives you QNH but then berates you for being below your assigned altitude. If you set standard pressure like you should then problem gone. I don't know if they got it wrong in their programing ( >18 instead of =>18 ) or what, but if you're instructed to climb to 18000 ft you will still receive QNH from ATC controllers while the sim will expect you to use STD.

Not exactly "real life", but try setting altitude to 18100 or 17900 in those cases. Close enough that you don't get "expedite" all the time. 😉

...jim

 

I remember back in my FSX days I used to want to find a solution to replace Point with Decimal seeing as most of the world uses Decimal and I never really fly in the US. Hahah, how times have changed.

2 hours ago, JimBrown said:

Not exactly "real life", but try setting altitude to 18100 or 17900 in those cases. Close enough that you don't get "expedite" all the time. 😉

 

I'm use to it so when ATC instructs me to 18000 ft. I know to change to STD pressure once there (even though ATC still gives me QNH when changing controllers). This stops ATC telling me I'm so many feet below my assigned.