What have you done in 600 days J...?

[versus 61]

Can anyone enlighten me what significant changes for the better, apart from World Updates, have been done since the release of the game?

I only see attempts which often result in regressions (weather, FM, DX12.. )

There are distractions like Development Updates, Developer Q&As  that should give impression that someting is really going on but some real stuff is rarely to be seen.

Maybe I am wrong.

 

 

Edited April 11, 2022 by versus

[pmb 5,137]

3 minutes ago, versus said:

Maybe I am wrong.

I would say you are wrong. To name only a few from head without a certain order:

A major addition for me was VR support, which I now use 80% of the time. It's not yet perfect but works pretty well.

Support for X-Box has been added.

Support for TrackIR and Tobii Eye Tracker has been added.

(I guess you don't use any of these devices, but believe me there are users in all branches.)

There were continuous improvements to the Autopilot and Navigation tools for several planes. Add improvements to the flight models of several planes and propeller simulations (perhaps not immediately visible to less experienced pilots). 

Metar support has been added to the weather representation.

TLOD slider has been extended.

The peripherals interface has been extended with new settings.

Developers have been given a host of new functions in the scenery development, airplane development and tools development branches. I am unable to judge these in detail as a layman but I understand several of the released add-on planes rely on new SDK functions.

The latest two Sim Updates - 8 and the upcoming 9, now in beta - are indeed less feature rich but targeted to stability - upon request of the users.

I suggest having a look here for more detail (search for "Release Notes")

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/c/community/news-and-announcements/141

and check the various Sim Updates over time.

Kind regards, Michael

[tup61 1,582]

1 hour ago, versus said:

but some real stuff is rarely to be seen.

Maybe I am wrong.

This is so wrong that it is funny. And it is also so wrong that I can hardly believe Michael actually replied to your question. If you can't see the difference between the initial release version and the current one you should consider playing another game/sim because clearly MSFS is wasted on you.

[Gate99 246]

Troll bait....

[rocketlaunch 614]

Yes, this topic is ridiculous. There has been a massive list of new features, updates and refinements since the conception of MSFS. Asobo and Microsoft have been relentless in their development program. 

[versus 61]

2 hours ago, pmb said:

A major addition for me was VR support, which I now use 80% of the time. It's not yet perfect but works pretty well.

This one I admit is valid. It was so long ago that I forgot it was not part of the initial release.

2 hours ago, pmb said:

Support for X-Box has been added.

Support for TrackIR and Tobii Eye Tracker has been added.

(I guess you don't use any of these devices, but believe me there are users in all branches.)

far less value in these ones. 

2 hours ago, pmb said:

There were continuous improvements to the Autopilot and Navigation tools for several planes.

This one is valid too.

2 hours ago, pmb said:

Add improvements to the flight models of several planes and propeller simulations (perhaps not immediately visible to less experienced pilots). 

Metar support has been added to the weather representation.

Regressions for me

2 hours ago, pmb said:

TLOD slider has been extended.

The peripherals interface has been extended with new settings.

Developers have been given a host of new functions in the scenery development, airplane development and tools development branches. I am unable to judge these in detail as a layman but I understand several of the released add-on planes rely on new SDK functions.

The latest two Sim Updates - 8 and the upcoming 9, now in beta - are indeed less feature rich but targeted to stability - upon request of the users.

cosmetic ones, would not know about developers

2 hours ago, pmb said:

I suggest having a look here for more detail (search for "Release Notes")

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/c/community/news-and-announcements/141

and check the various Sim Updates over time.

Kind regards, Michael

Have done so and list are mostly bugfixes and restricted scope improvements only.

What am talking about are global improvements that were promised for the get go: ATC and AI, cloud vvariations, seasons, flight models

i am not saying they are easy to do, but once in a while, it would be nice to see someting substantial beeing added or fixed.

On the other hand nothing to complain about WU.   

 

[icewater5 181]

I must agree that default ATC is, and has been, low level for years but 3rd party programmers do a good job of

filling the 'space'. Hopefully the same applies to MSFS 2020 (actual users will likely confirm that).

[pstrub 998]

23 minutes ago, versus said:

pmb said: "Add improvements to the flight models of several planes and propeller simulations (perhaps not immediately visible to less experienced pilots).  [...]"

Regressions for me

[...]

What am talking about are global improvements that were promised for the get go: ATC and AI, cloud vvariations, seasons, flight models

 

Lol what? First you say the flight model improvements are a regression, then you're saying you're waiting for improvements on flight models? I don't follow, not at all...

and there's been a lot of work "under the hood", as can be seen from the improvements in the SDK...

Edited April 11, 2022 by pstrub

[icewater5 181]

2 minutes ago, icewater5 said:

oops  ..double post

 

Edited April 11, 2022 by icewater5

[Car147 2,279]

Don't feed the troll.

[Bobsk8 12,753]

First thing Monday, and a Troll. 

[versus 61]

56 minutes ago, pstrub said:

Lol what? First you say the flight model improvements are a regression, then you're saying you're waiting for improvements on flight models? I don't follow, not at all...

and there's been a lot of work "under the hood", as can be seen from the improvements in the SDK...

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/feedback-for-cfd-simulation-on-c172/508234/185

Read the thread dedicated to this change and see if this is progression or else.

 

[versus 61]

9 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

First thing Monday, and a Troll. 

criticism = troll. Ok. 

[pstrub 998]

8 minutes ago, versus said:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/feedback-for-cfd-simulation-on-c172/508234/185

Read the thread dedicated to this change and see if this is progression or else.

 

You understand how beta testing works?

 

7 minutes ago, versus said:

criticism = troll. Ok. 

Criticism without due diligence = troll. Yes. That's why I'm outta here now.

 

[cobalt 798]

Some trolls are annoying (which of course is the intent), but this one makes me laugh! Thanks, versus.

Edited April 11, 2022 by cobalt