May 5, 20224 yr One has to ask the question I suppose. So I have seen some review on YouTube and both aircraft looks very nice indeed. They are more or less in the same price category and type of aircraft. For those of you that own both is there a one you prefer over the other and if so why ? Appreciate your though as I’m not sure I will buy both (or at least not just now)
May 5, 20224 yr I do own both, but I don't think I could pick between the two. I really enjoy both aircraft. The only thing I could say is that the 414 is still in open beta status. But, it's still very enjoyable to fly in the sim, as is the MV 310. That's about the best I can offer. AMD Ryzen 9900X3D & ASUS X870E Gaming Plus MB, w/64 Gb GSkill DDR5 RAM, PNY RTX 5090 GPU, lots of SSD's and M.2 drives, HAVN Case, Virpil VPC Panels 2 and 3, Virpil Constellation Alpha Stick, Virpil Rotor TCS Plus w/ Hawk-60 Collective grip, TM TCA Yoke Boeing Edition, TM HOTAS A-10 and F/A-18 Sticks and TM TPR Rudder pedals. Currently on Win11
May 5, 20224 yr 8 minutes ago, Bushido5 said: Appreciate your though as I’m not sure I will buy both (or at least not just now) One is still in beta (414) and the other is in full release status. Honestly if you can swing it I'd say get both.👍 Edited May 5, 20224 yr by Dillon FS2020 Alienware Aurora R11 10th Gen Intel Core i7 10700F - Windows 11 Home 32GB Ram NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB - Pimax Crystal Light VR
May 5, 20224 yr Agee with poster above. Both are very good in their category. Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
May 5, 20224 yr Hehe I figured someone would ask this eventually. I had a hand in both for testing - and I really like both of them with TDS GTN 750Xi's. The 414 has a bit more instruments which I like (example a VOR2 and RMI) - which are almost redundant with dual GTNs hehe - keep in mind the original 414 didn't have all the fancy GPS's so having multiple VOR indicators was a must for a cabin class twin like the 414. And it's pressurized and turbocharged - so above 10K the 414 starts winning in airspeed. The 414 is also getting a huge sound upgrade soon TM! The 310 has some amazing sounds and the flight model has a lot of character. For instance you need to have a bit of power in during landing due to the critical wing (thin) - this is modeled in the Milviz rendition. And there's failures and ownership of aircraft - it's all around really well done. I'd say at the moment the 310 has the edge for most in depth GA systems in the sim. I highly suggest both of them if you can part with the cash. Either will be money well spent! | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
May 5, 20224 yr Author Thanks all. So no clear Winner. The state saving option and random failure looks appealing for me (did someone say A2A ?) So I might go for the 310 first and wait for the 414 to be out of beta then.
May 5, 20224 yr I still can't force myself to say that Milviz's is better than 7 Charlie Mike! Maybe if you, ryanbatc can cay that - considering you were beta testing some of the Dreamfleet's planes... maybe I make the transition...?! 🙂
May 5, 20224 yr I feel both are needed in my collection. The have totally different looks, moods and character. Two different flying experiences for me in VR. Asus Maximus X Hero Z370/ Windows 10 MSI Gaming X 1080Ti (2100 mhz OC Watercooled) 8700k (4.7ghz OC Watercooled) 32GB DDR4 3000 Ram 500GB SAMSUNG 860 EVO SERIES SSD M.2
May 5, 20224 yr 26 minutes ago, DrMelanogaster said: I still can't force myself to say that Milviz's is better than 7 Charlie Mike! Maybe if you, ryanbatc can cay that - considering you were beta testing some of the Dreamfleet's planes... maybe I make the transition...?! 🙂 Oh my gosh that goes way back. I did beta test for Dreamfleet - that's pretty much when I started beta testing. Unforuntately I don't recall hardly anything about the 310L I think it was from DF. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
May 5, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, ryanbatc said: The 310 has some amazing sounds and the flight model has a lot of character. I absolutely love flying the C310 - greasing a landing in this aircraft is very satisfying. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
May 5, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, Bushido5 said: One has to ask the question I suppose. So I have seen some review on YouTube and both aircraft looks very nice indeed. They are more or less in the same price category and type of aircraft. For those of you that own both is there a one you prefer over the other and if so why ? Appreciate your though as I’m not sure I will buy both (or at least not just now) It has to be both. Right now if it has to be just one I would say the C310 as it is a released product. The 414 is still in beta, but still a great aircraft. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
May 5, 20224 yr C310 is little smoother in terms of performance. For that reason, I'd choose it over the C414. If performance isn't an issue they're both great aircraft, Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
May 5, 20224 yr For a penny with the 310 you get this.... Edited May 5, 20224 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
May 6, 20224 yr I think its great we have the option for these in the first place. I just want to know when it's released on the ORBX app. The 414 has been go-to for nearly everything since release. The CRJ did that....the DC6 did that....Kodiak...etc etc 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
May 6, 20224 yr This is a tough choice. The 310 has better outside textures for sure. I think the cabin's are a wash. I like somethings in the 414 better and somethings in the 310 better. Sounds: Currently the 310 engine sounds are better, but the previews Momo has shown on the FSW discord of the new 414 sounds mean they will at least be equal when that drops. Engine simulation is better on the 310. having "accusim" like options is nice and keeps you on your toes if you want. Click spots are a bit trickier in the 310 vs the 414 imo In game performance: No issues with either on my machine. In the end neither one is a bad choice. They do serve two different IRL GA markets. Turbos, pressurization, fiki, and better AP are in the 414's favor. Its meant to get up high and cruise. I would currently give the 310 a slight edge as an overall package. The manual is great too. But the 414 is no slouch and being an evolving product in a beta state I'm not sure it's even really right to compare them at this stage in their production. Once again, just go buy both. Neither are relatively expensive add ons in this hobby and both are worth the current asking price. Edited May 6, 20224 yr by CaptainNick Nick Silver http://www.youtube.com/user/socalf1fan Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 64gb ddr4 3200mhz ram, RTX 4080 Super, HP Reverb G2 v2, 4K Tv Monitor
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