Just now, jbdbow1970 said:

Well whoopie Doo! Did he tell you when we can see a live stream of the A320 or we going to go into the PMDG route. Make people nauseous in anticipation.

I mean, you seem to be a very negative person.  But to put it nicely to you, as multiple other people have told you in this thread and not just me, Fenix has to take the FBW A320 into consideration when they price the Fenix A320.

I don't even know why you think the FBW A320 has nothing to do with the Fenix A320's pricing.

FWB es muy bueno pero también le queda camino por recorrer. Yo no veo FBW como competencia lo veo como un complemento más para los amantes de Airbus, yo pienso disfrutar de los dos

59 minutes ago, Aamir said:

Yeah! Incorporated in Devon 🙂

My Ticknor ancestors were from Devon. 😃

4 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Did he tell you when we can see a live stream of the A320 (...)

He's commented twice now that the plane is very close to release, and that the entire team is heads down ensuring the recent patch didn't break the release build.

Chewwy and other streamers were expecting to start streaming the aircraft two days ago, but never got the go ahead because the team was still going down the checklist when their time to stream came up. That tells us we're, to quote Aamir in the opening post of this thread, days away from streams, not months.

11 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Well whoopie Doo! Did he tell you when we can see a live stream of the A320 or we going to go into the PMDG route. Make people nauseous in anticipation.

You must of been hell to be with just before Christmas.

1 minute ago, Aglos77 said:

FWB es muy bueno pero también le queda camino por recorrer. Yo no veo FBW como competencia lo veo como un complemento más para los amantes de Airbus, yo pienso disfrutar de los dos

I mean, now that the long-expected PMDG 737 which was supposed to elevate MSFS into a “serious flight sim” (tongue-in-cheek) has at last entered the scene, it’s very interesting to compare it against the freeware FBW. Which is of course also relevant to the upcoming Fenix. Having flown the PMDG since release day, I’m even more impressed with how far the FBW team has come. It’s a joy to fly, has a very intuitive and easy to use EFB, immersive sounds overall, cabin crew sounds… I wouldn’t know about the flight model as the closest I’ve been to the 737/320 cockpit is as a front row passenger. But in some ways I find that the FBW is ahead of the PMDG. 

I could add that the FBW also has an excellent simbrief integration. But I won’t, as fellow forum users always come after me for mentioning this 😉

(to be sure I’ll add that yes, I know that WASM currently prohibits PMDG from a better simbrief integration, that it’s not really their fault, that their waiting on Asobo and that it’s not really a huge issue, thank you very much)

51 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

You must of been hell to be with just before Christmas.

I was more like Santa Claus. Gave more than ask for something for free. Just want to see the Fenix in action whats the harm in that?

Edited May 12, 20224 yr by jbdbow1970

7 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Just want to see the Fenix in action whats the harm in that?

This would have got a very different reaction to... 'Well whoopie Doo! Did he tell you when we can see a live stream of the A320 or we going to go into the PMDG route. Make people nauseous in anticipation'.

Edited May 12, 20224 yr by MrBitstFlyer

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I mean, now that the long-expected PMDG 737 which was supposed to elevate MSFS into a “serious flight sim” (tongue-in-cheek) has at last entered the scene, it’s very interesting to compare it against the freeware FBW. Which is of course also relevant to the upcoming Fenix. Having flown the PMDG since release day, I’m even more impressed with how far the FBW team has come. It’s a joy to fly, has a very intuitive and easy to use EFB, immersive sounds overall, cabin crew sounds… I wouldn’t know about the flight model as the closest I’ve been to the 737/320 cockpit is as a front row passenger. But in some ways I find that the FBW is ahead of the PMDG. 

I could add that the FBW also has an excellent simbrief integration. But I won’t, as fellow forum users always come after me for mentioning this 😉

(to be sure I’ll add that yes, I know that WASM currently prohibits PMDG from a better simbrief integration, that it’s not really their fault, that their waiting on Asobo and that it’s not really a huge issue, thank you very much)

You’re right about just how good the FBW is.

737 is one of my favourite types, so I’ve been flying it a lot this week. But the FBW is a truly impressive plane, whether you compare it to freeware or payware.

I agree about the sounds, the flight model and the EFB.

One thing you forgot to mention is the Simbrief integration. PMDG seems very old school in comparison to the FBW. Sure, it’s not a massive deal to use the Simbrief downloader, but the FBW solution is certainly a little more elegant.

Great to have a 737 and an A320 in the sim now! 

2 minutes ago, OzWhitey said:

One thing you forgot to mention is the Simbrief integration.

Ah yes, the simbrief integration. Must have missed that. Thanks for the reminder! 😁

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

 

(to be sure I’ll add that yes, I know that WASM currently prohibits PMDG from a better simbrief integration, that it’s not really their fault, that their waiting on Asobo and that it’s not really a huge issue, thank you very much)

Here’s the thing I don’t get.  The fbw seems to have wasm code as well, since it takes an age on first load after every update.  Yet the efb and FMS can link to simbrief, so those modules seem to be Java based?  I could see that pmdg might not want to go Java with the FMS, as they could lose fidelity there, but you would think that they could easily get a Java efb going, since the whole point of that device is to interface with various web things.

No problem between the FBW A320 and the Fenix for me , both being different ie Neo and Ceo, I like to replicate flights, so i'll be using both the Fenix version, and FBW, dependant on what's in use on the flight i wish to do.

4 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

I am also going to predict that Fenix lowers the price of their A320, to less than that of the PMDG 737, because the FBW A320 is competing against the Fenix A320.  I would be very surprised if Fenix charges more than $69.99 USD for the Fenix A320, despite the fact that the Fenix A320 could be higher in fidelity than the PMDG 737.

Totally agree.  FBW is great fun and does what I want in the sim so far and Fenix will have to bring something even better to the table for me to pay for an A320.  Fancy hydralics and pump mechanics and what not won't cut it unfortunately I'm an A to B man.  I just wanna fly.

What the FBW lacks is good performance optimization. I hope the Fenix will be able to deliver on that just like PMDG did.

 

(Of course I don't have a problem with the FBW since it's free)

Edited May 12, 20224 yr by FlyerNYC

Seen the topic title, where is it?