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Turbulence

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What? You all are not experiencing it?? Because I am. I have exactly the same issue as Captain747.

Only since SU9 I am experiencing sudden turbulence jolts in all GA aircraft. It happens even when using "Clear weather" and after erasing ALL wind layers.... 

I fly mostly JPL C152 and occasionally default aircrafts. I fly in the Caribbean or central Europe. I use Thrustmaster T.1600 joystick.

I also had the pleasure to pilot C172 in real life in the UK once and haven't experienced anything even remotely as violent as after SU9.

 

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Since SU9 I do have this turbulence issue as well and it's very pronounced on the 172 and several other aircraft.

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40 minutes ago, tazz said:

Since SU9 I do have this turbulence issue as well and it's very pronounced on the 172 and several other aircraft.

Exactly...TOO pronounced.

52 minutes ago, David_CSA said:

It happens even when using "Clear weather" and after erasing ALL wind layers.... 

Of course it does. Turbulence has nothing to do with wind, but everything with temperature.

I flew the C172 (1000) at KCRW and there was annoying bouncing around. No winds were set. The C172 is usually pretty smooth.

Jim Morgan

7 minutes ago, jcjimmy said:

No winds were set.

Again: Turbulence after take-off has nothing to do with wind. They are thermal. Lower the temperature or change the daytime to morning and they'll be gone.

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Interesting that some people have turbulence issues and others do not. The only turbulence I get is when skimming mountain ridges.  Lately I fly the Stearman,  Kodiak, Warrior II and Grumman Goose.  Is it aircraft related?

4 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Interesting that some people have turbulence issues and others do not. The only turbulence I get is when skimming mountain ridges.  Lately I fly the Stearman,  Kodiak, Warrior II and Grumman Goose.  Is it aircraft related?

I think so...Try the stock 172 and report back....Fly from 11am to 7pm....Too bumpy...

1 minute ago, Farlis said:

Again: Turbulence has nothing to do with wind.

Not true with respect. It is present when wind is disturbed at low or higher altitudes over hills, undulations and trees, or meets frontal air masses colliding with other air masses. But I'm getting turbulence when I take off any GA aircraft over a flat, largely treeless landscape  where the wind is set to zero and the temperature is below 10 degrees F and with virtually no sunshine or rising air. It is most definitely BAKED IN. I think we are revisiting the same discussion several updates ago when some but not all were observing this baked in effect. It was not a popular move as far as I can recall.

This effect is very predictable. If I take off on a coastal strip then fly over water in the above conditions I get no turbulence. The moment I fly over land even when the conditions are cold and totally benign the turbulence starts. So someone decided to re-code a baked in effect that appears to be global. In benign conditions such as this there should be zero turbulence. Air mass doesn't suddenly bubble up by itself unless 1) There is air flow over hills 2) There is heat 3) there is sufficient wind to disturb air flow passing over trees at low level 4) There is convergence between two air masses.

This is precisely the baked in effect that most complained about several months ago and it was removed. Now it is back. 

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10 minutes ago, robert young said:

This is precisely the baked in effect that most complained about several months ago and it was removed. Now it is back. 

Interesting, I never knew that. There is free published data that gives boundaries of abnormal weather conditions, such as turbulence (even notifies the flight level and severity too), thunderstorms, etc. They are called SIGMETS and are issued world wide. There's even predictions those are called OUTLOOKS. I wonder if Asobo could utilize those some day to more accurately depict the live weather?

https://skyvector.com/?ll=38.014630315605814,-94.38281249469354&chart=301&zoom=14&fpl=undefined

 

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9 minutes ago, robert young said:

Not true with respect. It is present when wind is disturbed at low or higher altitudes over hills, undulations and trees, or meets frontal air masses colliding with other air masses. But I'm getting turbulence when I take off any GA aircraft over a flat, largely treeless landscape  where the wind is set to zero and the temperature is below 10 degrees F and with virtually no sunshine or rising air. It is most definitely BAKED IN. I think we are revisiting the same discussion several updates ago when some but not all were observing this baked in effect. It was not a popular move as far as I can recall.

This effect is very predictable. If I take off on a coastal strip then fly over water in the above conditions I get no turbulence. The moment I fly over land even when the conditions are cold and totally benign the turbulence starts. So someone decided to re-code a baked in effect that appears to be global. In benign conditions such as this there should be zero turbulence. Air mass doesn't suddenly bubble up by itself unless 1) There is air flow over hills 2) There is heat 3) there is sufficient wind to disturb air flow passing over trees at low level 4) There is convergence between two air masses.

This is precisely the baked in effect that most complained about several months ago and it was removed. Now it is back. 

Very very true indeed!...this unnecessary code is absolutely baked in and it has to be "baked out" as soon as possible!...and yes...it is absolutely a global effect...and there is absolutely nothing you can do to fix it or eliminate it...except what was already mentioned about only flying at certain times of the day like early morning or at night...which will of course force you to only fly at those certain times of the day if you want to avoid the ridiculous baked in turbulence.

 

But here is the problem:

We need many many votes in order for Asobo to even consider taking this on...because those guys over there solve issues based on a priority scheme...and if they don't consider this issue a priority due to lack of mayority of complaints...then its no game for them...and we loose!...which. means that many more pilots have to join this cause in order for them to consider this.

So...please fellow pilots...all you who are deeply disturbed by this new baked in turbulence effect...lets all join the cause and do all that is in our power to make Asobo hear us and solve this problem.

I am mostly a vfr flier and this newly added unnecessary turbulence has completely ruined my vfr experience to the point that its just not doable anymore...which is such a shame because this simulator has such breath taking scenery to enjoy...but there is no way to enjoy it with a plane that is constantly wobbling up and down like its possessed by some mysterious force!...its just ridiculous.

I mean I know that flying on rails is not realistic but this level of globally baked in "turbulence" is totally ridiculous.

My wish is that Asobo at the very least provide a slider in the weather section for each individual user to customise the turbulence as he or she deems necessary...like 0=no turbulence...and 10=total turbulence...or something like that.  We all know that they are able to do this because they have a specialised team to rearrange code...and its perfectly possible because at the moment we also have options to add wind layers or delete them, change cloud coverage and weather conditions and also time of day...so adding an extra option to manually control the turbulence is also possible....and so every body will be happy because it will be totally up to the user if they want it or not.

But...as I said before...it needs enough votes for them to even consider this and give it a priority...and at this point this issue is not at the top of their list and it never will be...unless we a simmers stress it enough.

1 hour ago, Simmer2308 said:

Exactly...TOO pronounced.

Doesn't seem to be aircraft related - I often fly the default 172 because it has the new prop & aerodynamic features.  No matter the time of day I just get normal turbulence with it, no sudden over exaggerated bumps or yaws.  I don't get anything unexpected with any of my aircraft addons.

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13 minutes ago, Captain747 said:

Very very true indeed!...this unnecessary code is absolutely baked in and it has to be "baked out" as soon as possible!...and yes...it is absolutely a global effect...and there is absolutely nothing you can do to fix it or eliminate it

This is very odd because I don't see anything exceptional at all with turbulence.  I'm in a flight from St. Luis to Oklahoma in the Milviz C310 during the afternoon and the flight is very calm - very gentle turbulence.

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26 minutes ago, Captain747 said:

Very very true indeed!...this unnecessary code is absolutely baked in and it has to be "baked out" as soon as possible!...and yes...it is absolutely a global effect...and there is absolutely nothing you can do to fix it or eliminate it...except what was already mentioned about only flying at certain times of the day like early morning or at night...which will of course force you to only fly at those certain times of the day if you want to avoid the ridiculous baked in turbulence.

 

But here is the problem:

We need many many votes in order for Asobo to even consider taking this on...because those guys over there solve issues based on a priority scheme...and if they don't consider this issue a priority due to lack of mayority of complaints...then its no game for them...and we loose!...which. means that many more pilots have to join this cause in order for them to consider this.

So...please fellow pilots...all you who are deeply disturbed by this new baked in turbulence effect...lets all join the cause and do all that is in our power to make Asobo hear us and solve this problem.

I am mostly a vfr flier and this newly added unnecessary turbulence has completely ruined my vfr experience to the point that its just not doable anymore...which is such a shame because this simulator has such breath taking scenery to enjoy...but there is no way to enjoy it with a plane that is constantly wobbling up and down like its possessed by some mysterious force!...its just ridiculous.

 

The maximum gross weight of a cessna 172 is 2,550 lbs.

The maximum gross weight of a Milviz C310 is 5,550 lbs.

More than double that of the 172.

This may account why the 172 is being tossed around like a paper airplane. 

Asobo, give us a slider to tone done the light GA aircraft.

33 minutes ago, Simmer2308 said:

The maximum gross weight of a cessna 172 is 2,550 lbs.

The maximum gross weight of a Milviz C310 is 5,550 lbs.

More than double that of the 172.

This may account why the 172 is being tossed around like a paper airplane. 

Asobo, give us a slider to tone done the light GA aircraft.

But I don't get excessive turbulence problems in any aircraft, so it doesn't seem to be aircraft related.  Maybe someone could post a video showing this problem in the default 172 (G1000) so we can comment.

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