May 31, 20224 yr Hey, So, long term flight simmer here who wandered off to DCS. Used to have P3D (V3-5) with ProATC/X. Now we're getting some tubeliners in MSFS I'm looking at coming back to it. Particularly the PMDG 737 in my case. My main question here is which of the current or imminent offline ATC programs is closest to Pro ATC/X in function? The biggest thing I'm looking for is the ability to paste or export a route from simbrief, then have the program automatically add SIDS and STARS to it without me needing to tell it to - Pro ATC/X had a tickbox option for it from memory. And then for the program to be able to direct me through the route including vectoring where appropriate. After that, priorities are more that I don't want to have to talk to the program, and being able to assign the interface keys to hat switches on my HOTAS - I used to have a button to open Pro ATC, and then 1 - 8 on two hats. After using it for a while I often didn't have to even open the UI to do things like acknowledge instructions. Nice to have is the program keeping me de-conflicted from the sims AI traffic - I don't currently use any AI add ins. Not overly bothered by the voices it uses, though a bit of variety is nice. I often fly in the same areas for prolonged periods so I'd expect to hear the same roster of controllers. An unobtrusive UI would also be nice - even better if you can use the program without the UI when you know the response already. Edited May 31, 20224 yr by VFRHawk
May 31, 20224 yr Maybe Pilot2ATC? ASUS ROG Maximus Hero XII ▪︎ Intel i9-10900K ▪︎ NVIDIA RTX 3090 FE ▪︎ 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ▪︎ Windows 10 Pro (21H1) ▪︎ Samsung 970 EVO Pro 1TB NVME SSD (OS Drive) ▪︎ Samsung 860 EVO 2TB SATA SSD ▪︎ Seagate 4TB SATA HDD ▪︎ Corsair RMx 850W PSU
May 31, 20224 yr PF3 comes with 100 controller voices, unlike other programs where you pay up to $40 for each voice. https://www.oncourse-software.co.uk/pf3_trial.htm
May 31, 20224 yr Think I've tried them all I think (as long as they have a trial version anyway), for me the best by far is Pilot2ATC.... G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
May 31, 20224 yr I also recommend Pilot2ATC, native voice control and it is updated regularly. Not perfect, but as close as you will get at the present time.
May 31, 20224 yr I have seen that this ATC will be released soon, I don't know how it will be, but I will have to try it. https://www.fshud.com/#/site/overview i7 11800, RTX 3070, 32Gb RAM, 2Tb
May 31, 20224 yr I would defenitely wait for FSHud. None of the current ATC addons assign SID or STAR. One addon even requires you to program the procedures yourself... It's like having to write a script for the entire flight and then using the addon to play it back for you during flying. Awful. FSHud looks (and sounds!) pretty cool and the MSFS version should be released in June. BTW I am an old PROATC user too. Loved it. Nothing currently available for MSFS comes close. Perhaps FSHud will. Edited May 31, 20224 yr by tup61
June 1, 20224 yr I remember back in the day I purchased a program for fsx that wasn't too bad. It was radar contact. Then after some years went by I think they released it as freeware. I don't know much about programming but by offering it as freeware I don't know if that allows radar contact to be like open source also.... But was wondering if it was open source now wonder why someone hasn't built off of radar contact for MSFS. 2 cents in the bucket & Happy Landings,
June 1, 20224 yr FSHud looks really impressive. Hopefully, it will be out reasonably soon. James David Walley Ryzen 7 7700X, 32 GB, RTX 3080
June 1, 20224 yr Author Could someone confirm whether Pilot2ATC automatically assigns SIDS and STARS? Seems to be both yes and no answers on that ATM. And yes, I'd looked at FSHUD as it seemed pretty good. Anyone in the beta able/willing to say whether it will take a flight plan and add on the SIDS and STARS as appropriate for you?
June 1, 20224 yr 14 minutes ago, VFRHawk said: Could someone confirm whether Pilot2ATC automatically assigns SIDS and STARS? Seems to be both yes and no answers on that ATM. Yes, Pilot2ATC can automatically assign SID, and STARS. Runyways and approaches too, based on real Weather, even during the flight. Pilot2ATC also can do vectoring, and handle go arounds. What it cant do is alternates and holds.
June 1, 20224 yr 17 minutes ago, VFRHawk said: Could someone confirm whether Pilot2ATC automatically assigns SIDS and STARS? Seems to be both yes and no answers on that ATM. And yes, I'd looked at FSHUD as it seemed pretty good. Anyone in the beta able/willing to say whether it will take a flight plan and add on the SIDS and STARS as appropriate for you? yes, I confirm you that it assigns sid and star, I have been using it for years and the truth is that for the options that there are, it is the best, we will try fshud, and we can compare, until then I will stay with Pilot2ATC. i7 11800, RTX 3070, 32Gb RAM, 2Tb
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