4 hours ago, G-RFRY said:

Nvidia have done a better job on this GPU.

TSMC has done a better job with their newer 4nm node than Samsung with their 8nm:

 

9 minutes ago, turbomax said:

Xanadu-12 can't make use of DLSS 3.0: missing motion vectors required for DLSS 3.0. but they support Linux and iOS.

I’m flabbergasted that XP 12 doesn’t have motion vectors implemented and that’s why LR can’t implement DLSS for XP 12 (I assume MSFS has it implemented because MSFS does have DLSS).

And I think the developer from LR implied it would take a lot of time to implement motion vectors, nevermind implementing DLSS. XP 12 will  be stuck with mediocre FPS for the foreseeable future, even with the NVidia 4000 series, especially if people are stacking XP 12 with a lot of add-ons.

Edited October 11, 20223 yr by abrams_tank

3 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I will be building a new 13900K system tomorrow with one of these bad boys. 

#metoo, but I will wait for either the AMD Ryzen 7900x3D or Intel Meteor Lake (much more efficient than their old power hungry10 nm process), based on their new Intel 4 process generation allowing 20% higher clock rates, coming in 2023.

2 hours ago, Claudius_ said:

I had very good performance with my old I7 4790k and gtx 1080 at ultra

1080p? 1080p and 4090 in one and the same sentence is proibito. 😀

Edited October 11, 20223 yr by turbomax

43 minutes ago, turbomax said:

850 watts minimum PSU rating for the founders edition, might be just enough because they allegedly have reduced the over-current spikes problem.

Yeah, but that's total system usage, ain't it?

4 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

but that's total system usage, ain't it?

I would think so from Nvidias RTX 4090 box back side, so should be enough for a pc with non-overclocked 4090 founders edition, some 100 watts more power draw than for the RTX 3090. the problem was not so much the average wattage, but the short but extreme over-current load spikes of the RTX 3080/3090s. the new PCIe5 PSUs have to be able to supply some 70% current overload for 100 milliseconds, or 0.1 seconds. enough to deal with "most" of those short 10 msecs spikes. 😀

Edited October 11, 20223 yr by turbomax

6 hours ago, pmb said:

This would really shine with VR.

DLSS 3.0 does not work in VR, according to Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_learning_super_sampling#DLSS_3.0

Since DLSS 3.0 creates extra frames like VR motion reprojection already does, I would expect there to be issues when you have two technologies both working in the rendering pipeline at the same time trying to generate extra frames.

9 minutes ago, JacquesBrel said:

DLSS 3.0 does not work in VR, according to Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_learning_super_sampling#DLSS_3.0

Oh. That might save me 1000 € getting peace with a 3090 for my new build. I read this, but that's really new to me. Honestly, I haven't seen anything about VR+DLSS3 so far.

Thanks for the note.

Kind regards, Michael 

2 hours ago, turbomax said:

1080p? 1080p and 4090 in one and the same sentence is proibito. 😀

 

I have a 3080 now running a higher and smoother render scaling, but fps locked at 30 because CPU bound (5800X). So I don't think this spamming interpolating higher 4090 fps is the right solution, especially with studio level (heavy) planes. Waiting for much more efficient and power CPUs, the 3.XXX series cards haven't found their full potential yet.

27 minutes ago, Claudius_ said:

So I don't think this spamming interpolating higher 4090 fps is the right solution

even without DLSS 3.0 and "this spamming interpolating" the 4090's increased by 50% raw rasterization power combined with 5.8 GHz all-core CPUs and 96 MB cache gives us that additional headroom to achieve 60 fps @ 4K with AI like FSLTL, give or take.

TAA, without DLSS 3.0:

Son, never heard PMDG/Fenix/FBW studio airplanes? I want to see benchmarks with serious and studio level planes (it's the third time I'm saying the same thing), and you are showing me externarl views with toy planes.

BTW, I had headroom enough to buy a 3800 a week ago at a very good price, very good and efficient card for the next 4/5 years. If other simmers want to buy a shiny $2000 elephantiac card to run a studio airplane at 30 fps, they are free to do so.

11 hours ago, Azoresst said:

There is also a video:

 

I must have missed it in the video, but I presume this is an early beta or something of SU11? I recall Asobo indicating that SU11 would come with the ability to run DLSS3, but that it wasn't built into SU10. 

I was expecting that if I managed to pickup a 4090 I'd still have to wait until November (or the beta) to dry this new frame generating technology?

1 hour ago, Claudius_ said:

If other simmers want to buy a shiny $2000 elephantiac card to run a studio airplane at 30 fps, they are free to do so

mille grazie!

I run msfs at 23 fps or 29fps and both are perfectly smooth. I've tried 50fps and 60fps which mean lower setting and bigger hardware loading. AND a less smooth flight sim experience.

I've never seen any sim on my system or any other right in front of me run as smooth as it does on my system at 23fps or 29fps. I really cant see why I would want anything like 100fps or more on FS

10 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

! now we can forget about FPS forever and just focus on the sim!

Now YOU can focus on the sim and forget about FPS.  I've been doing that already for about, umm, 2 years now.