October 25, 20223 yr I asked once, right after the launch of Fenix A320, but need to ask again after all those patches before I buy it. How is its performance? Is it as smooth as PMDG? Is there a remote MCDU for iPad, like FBW has for their A32x? Thank you.
October 25, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, JU108 said: How is its performance? Is it as smooth as PMDG? Not even close, unfortunately. The difference is clearly noticeable even on my fairly good setup (3080 + 5800x3D), regardless of the performance saving options you might choose with the Fenix. Then again, PMDG 737 appears to be exceptionally well optimized, even compared to some 3rd party GA. Still, Fenix is perfectly useable, you just have to forget about the smoothness that PMDG has. In my opinion, both are the best airliners in MSFS 2020. Fenix for its fidelity in system modelling and PMDG for being more engaging to operate (IMO) and its tremendous amount of customization. DC-6 trumps them all, though 🙂 Edited October 25, 20223 yr by Ohmsquare CPU Ryzen 5800X3D RAM 64GB DDR4 3200MHz GPU RTX 5070 Ti (16 GB VRAM) Display 38" LG OS Windows 11
October 25, 20223 yr Pmdg is by far the best and complete airliner, it has all of its own software not dependent on Prosim contracts, so I can use all of my hardware! I don’t understand the Fenix hype, it has a lot of problems too for a lot of simmers which I don’t see solved in the near future! Edited October 25, 20223 yr by rob0203
October 26, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, JU108 said: I asked once, right after the launch of Fenix A320, but need to ask again after all those patches before I buy it. How is its performance? Is it as smooth as PMDG? Is there a remote MCDU for iPad, like FBW has for their A32x? Thank you. Would be nice to know your PC specs to be able to answer more accurately, I fly the Fenix & PMDG all the time, about 50% in each aircraft. I love them both and have zero performance issues with either. Yes the Fenix is a little harder on the system but if you have an onboard GPU (Non F Versions) just enable it and have the glass cockpit render on that. I found this makes a big difference and frees up those extra CPU cycles. I run mainly ultra settings with a couple turned down one notch, I spent a lot of time dialing the sim in for my hardware and if you do the same and don't try and run everything maxed out at London Heathrow in the Fenix with live traffic there is no reason you will not have an enjoyable experience. Richard i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |
October 26, 20223 yr Hopefully eventually more remote mcdu options open. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
October 26, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, rob0203 said: Pmdg is by far the best and complete airliner, Not really but you are free to believe this hype. there are some better detailed system modeled airliners out there ( in MSFS) and I will leave it at that. Edited October 26, 20223 yr by jbdbow1970
October 26, 20223 yr as much as it pains me to write this the PMDG is the more complete package minus the missing EFB. I think it comes down to 2 decades of experience vs fenix 1st product. Fenix will close the gap in time. 7900x3d , 64gb 6200mhz 30CL Ram, RTX 3080
October 26, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, rob0203 said: Pmdg is by far the best and complete airliner Nope, they are not the spearhead anymore in MSFS. "Best" is subjective. "Complete" is not possible without adequate EFB. Edited October 26, 20223 yr by Paladin2005 Regards, Jan Ast Win 11 PC | Ryzen 7800 X3D | RTX 5080 | LG 42 C2 Cockpit 😉 | TrackIR 5 | Octavia IFR-1 | Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Virpil Sharka Control Panel | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | TM TPM Rudder
October 26, 20223 yr 58 minutes ago, Paladin2005 said: Nope, they are not the spearhead anymore in MSFS. "Best" is subjective. "Complete" is not possible without adequate EFB. Complete for me is also that I have a working MCP, with Pmdg it is!
October 26, 20223 yr i have it hangared until it has a better Tablet and a remote MCDU. The FBW serves me just fine. I fly normal procedures only, I don't need breakers and failures. The FBW as a complete package is unrivalled imo. YMMV. The Fenix aircraft in itself is ok. But I need my QoL features. My hope is that FBW does a ceo at one point. Edited October 26, 20223 yr by darshonaut my African sceneries for MSFS : https://darshonaut.blogspot.com/p/msfs-2020.html
October 26, 20223 yr I have to agree after having used PMDG, Fenix and FBW, and as much as t costs me to admit 🙂 that the PMDG 737 is my preferred airliner in MFS. In 2nd place come, ex-aequo, the Fenix and the FBW... Regarding performance though, and at least until the last time I used MFS and the Fenix, I had no degradation in terms of performance. It's as smooth as the FBW and the PMDG. Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
October 26, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, wiler said: as much as it pains me to write this the PMDG is the more complete package minus the missing EFB. I think it comes down to 2 decades of experience vs fenix 1st product. Fenix will close the gap in time. Its not even more complete than the MD82 that everyone forgets about because everyone wants to fly 737's and A320's. PMDG product have no working CB's at all but this is not what the thread is about. Edited October 26, 20223 yr by jbdbow1970
October 26, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, jbdbow1970 said: Its not even more complete than the MD82 that everyone forgets about because everyone wants to fly 737's and A320's. PMDG product have no working CB's at all but this is not what the thread is about. not just taking systems into consideration here. I was the most excited about the md82 but the dev dropped the ball on the overall package (cockpit textures and sounds are a joke ) and radio silence for months is just sad. $90 is a total joke. For 60 PMDG gave the best combo of everything for me and Im not a PMDG fan at all. Fenix has the opportunity to overtake in the future. Edited October 26, 20223 yr by wiler 7900x3d , 64gb 6200mhz 30CL Ram, RTX 3080
October 26, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, jbdbow1970 said: Its not even more complete than the MD82 that everyone forgets about because everyone wants to fly 737's and A320's. PMDG product have no working CB's at all but this is not what the thread is about. I'm not sure what working CB's do for you. I've seen YouTube videos done by actual airline pilots who said they never touch the circuit breakers. They certainly wouldn't do it without consulting maintenance control first.
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