November 25, 20223 yr Thanks Ray, yeah I figured, nothing for me. I have no time to learn all that 😉 I have virtually typre rated myelf to A320, that is enough for me (other than bushflying). my African sceneries for MSFS : https://darshonaut.blogspot.com/p/msfs-2020.html
November 25, 20223 yr Moderator @darshonaut, the Flight Engineer’s duties can be controlled by the Virtual FE option in settings. That takes care of fuel mgmt leaving you to monitor the aircraft - just as you do on your A320. Concorde may go faster and have specific rules regarding noise abatement but if you’re an accomplished pilot it should hold no fears. 👍 Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 25, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: I’ve seen no such statement. Curious that you don't remember, because it was a direct answer to you, actually. Here is the full exchange from the FSLabs forum: On 8/18/2022, Ray Proudfoot said: If that’s the case then can FSL produce a Concorde for that simulator that has all the features of the forthcoming P3D version? On 8/18/2022, Andrew Wilson said: Yes - that's exactly what we are doing. On 8/18/2022, Ray Proudfoot said: But what about the lat/lon issue? Will you be able to circumvent that omission? Your reply is confusing when a little while back you poo-pooed the notion that a simulator compatible with X-Box could be as heavily featured as a P3D one. On 8/18/2022, Andrew Wilson said: Yes - we are not developing X-Box titles. I know you haven't experienced our A320 simulation titles Ray - these do not operate within the limits of the P3D SDK. Our development efforts for MSFS are no different - and so our INS works the same in MSFS as it does in P3D. The infrastructure that made this possible, however, took our teams two years to develop. So - its by no means trivial work. On 8/18/2022, Ray Proudfoot said: Craig and Andrew, thanks for educating me on what is and isn't possible in MSFS. Edited November 25, 20223 yr by GCBraun PC1: AMD Ryzen 9800X3D | Zotac RTX 5090 SOLID | Asus TUF X670E-Plus | G.SKILL 64GB DDR5 PC 6000 CL30 | 4TB NVMe | Noctua NH-D15 | Asus TUF 1000W Gold | be quiet! Pure Base 500DX | Noctua NH-D15S | LG OLED CX 48" + 2x Acer Nitro XV240YP 24" + 2x 15.6" Touch-screen Panels PC2: AMD Ryzen 7500F | Asrock 7900 GRE Challenger OC | Gigabyte B650I AX | Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 CL36 | 1TB NVMe | CM Hyper 212 | Corsair 750W Gold | Lian Li TU150 ITX | SAMSUNG Odyssey G9 49" Winctrl Ursa Minor Sidestick + Ursa Minor 32 Throttle & PAC - Thrustmaster Boeing TCA Yoke - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle - MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - TrackIR - Stream Deck XL + Stream Deck Plus - Winctrl MCDU + 2 MFD's - Meta Quest 3 (VR)
November 25, 20223 yr Moderator @GCBraun, are you basing your assumption on this from Andrew… “Yes - that's exactly what we are doing.” That’s a pretty vague statement. No indication of progress and certainly no statement that they are “hard at work” on a MSFS version. Those are your words, not theirs. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 25, 20223 yr Is the Concorde working ok in SU11? I thought I saw some comments from the devs about an issue with SU11 though that might have been a marketplace update issue only? Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
November 25, 20223 yr I wouldn't wait on anything from FSL for MSFS. They are more or less out of business for practical concerns and the only reason they release (eventually) the Concorde for P3D is that they were already quite far in development when MSFS arrived and killed their P3D income slowly but steadily. I love their Airbus products, but I cannot imagine how to stay afloat financially when you release something for MSFS only like 5 years in (or 20 years? Event their sharklets took them like 3 years, on an established known platform...). Their concorde sales will be in the hundreds if they are lucky; it's MUCH too late (as will be their A320 neo) because almost everybody that was left switched to MSFS this year. The ongoing navigraph survey will show this very clearly. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
November 25, 20223 yr You are assuming that FSL have no business interests outside of the home gamer/simmer market. For all we know, they could have lucrative contracts with commercial customers that they are under no obligation to divulge. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
November 25, 20223 yr I would hope they have an alternate means of supporting themselves. For some of us, they have tarnished their reputation beyond repair. i9-10850K, ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI), 32GB G.SKILL DDR4-3603 / PC4-28800, GIGABYTE RTX5080 16GB WF OC 3 FAN running 3440x1440
November 25, 20223 yr As FSL have clearly stated (and similarly A2A) there is nothing technically stopping them now from developing aircraft to the depth they desire for MSFS, especially if not needing to also sell the birds on the MSFS marketplace. So it's a matter of us waiting, forever looks like given their glacial pace :), for them to actually finish development (at least A2A is in alpha testing with their Comanche currently and hopefully close to beta). If FSL had any business sense they'd release the A330 and/or the Concorde as their first aircraft for MSFS rather than the A320. And like @GCBraun I wouldn't be at all surprised if their MSFS Concorde comes not too long after the P3D release, especially given the fact they've also pretty much stated the MSFS Concorde is being developed concurrently with their P3D version (of course it may or may not be far enough long on the progress track as the P3D version, but at least it's not completely stalled or not started yet until the P3D version releases). Edited November 25, 20223 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
November 25, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, GCBraun said: FSLabs already mentioned that they are hard at work on a fully featured MSFS Concorde. Due to current market conditions, I still believe that it may launch not that long after the P3D version. Considering that it is almost certain that there won't be an upgrade path from P3D to MSFS, for me it does not make sense to waste 150-200USD on the P3D version and/or maintaining an outdated sim just for one aircraft. With so many aircraft and quality of life updates being released for MSFS, I will gladly wait for the most future-proof version of Concorde. Agreed, they will not get anywhere close to their desired ROI with P3D sales of this niche aircraft. Eric
November 25, 20223 yr They (FS Labs) should focus on the Neo and the A330 and put the Concorde on the back burner, whether it be P3D or MSFS. Thats my honest reality IMO. Only exclusives will purchase that "Iconic" plane that don't fly anymore. As far as D.C. Designs Concorde. Meh? Edited November 25, 20223 yr by jbdbow1970
November 25, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, DAH4062 said: I think that was actually Chennai (formerly Madras)? I was wondering about that too. Flying Southeast and around Sri Lanka to get to Kenya from VABB seemed a bit strange 6 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: You're correct. I was relying on my less than perfect memory. I'm with you on that, Ray 😉 Closing in on the 7th decade isn't doing me any favours either! MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 | i5 13600KF | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3600MHz | RTX 3080 (12GB) | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 1TB | Samsung 850EVO 500GB | Crucial P3+ 2TB NVMe | 2TB Seagate HDD | Deepcool AK500 CPU Cooler | Thrustmaster T16000M HOTAS | CH Yoke | Various Winctrl hardware | 21:9 1440p UW monitor | Win 11 23H2 build | MSFS2020 / MSFS2024|Tony K.
November 25, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Christopher Low said: You are assuming that FSL have no business interests outside of the home gamer/simmer market. For all we know, they could have lucrative contracts with commercial customers that they are under no obligation to divulge. You have a point and I know for a fact their A320 is being used in commercial simulators. Still, the Concorde is not, obviously, so they are aiming at the simmer market with that at least. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
November 25, 20223 yr Moderator 1 hour ago, Fiorentoni said: You have a point and I know for a fact their A320 is being used in commercial simulators. Still, the Concorde is not, obviously, so they are aiming at the simmer market with that at least. The only Concorde simulator in the world is based at the Brooklands Museum in Surrey, England. When I paid for a session on it back in 2016 it was using software written by Andrew Wilson, chief Concorde programmer at FS Labs. There may have been further updates since then. The simulator remains in use and open to the public. https://www.brooklandsmuseum.com/concorde/concorde-events/fly-the-simulator Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
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