January 21, 20233 yr Might have to give it another shot, then. I stopped using it long before SU11 came out. Ryzen 7 7800X3D/B650 X AX | 5090 | 32gig | Win10 | Pimax Crystal Light
January 21, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, eslader said: Might have to give it another shot, then. I stopped using it long before SU11 came out. model matching is completely broken right now.
January 21, 20233 yr This would explain why A380s keep showing up at small city airports. 😉 Ryzen 7 7800X3D/B650 X AX | 5090 | 32gig | Win10 | Pimax Crystal Light
January 21, 20233 yr I think the default ATC is not that bad at all. It works in many straight forward cases. If nothing changes and no obstacles on the way it can work from departure to destination including SID and Approach. However, one fundamental problem is that, once in cockpit, you do not know the flight plan that ATC considers as filed. Vectoring to the next waypoint… What waypoint? To really improve they must first make the filed IFR flight plan visible in the sim and get rid of the ridiculous navigation log.
January 22, 20233 yr By the way: If you are not flying in the USA the ICAO-EU-UK Phraseology mod is highly recommended. https://flightsim.to/file/4518/european-atc-phraseology-mod
January 22, 20233 yr ATC is not ok with me. Not until at least accepts both inHg and hPa depending on the region you're flying, and also region-specific transition altitudes and flight levels. Not just a blanket one-size-fits-all 18000 ft TA and all in inHg. Too bad, because it's the best one I've ever seen regarding callsigns... Edited January 22, 20233 yr by Luis Hernandez Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
January 22, 20233 yr Moderator I’ve seen very little on vectoring. Does it give you vectors to a 30° intercept heading for an ILS approach where appropriate? And of course you should be below the glide slope at that point. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 22, 20233 yr 7 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: I’ve seen very little on vectoring. Does it give you vectors to a 30° intercept heading for an ILS approach where appropriate? And of course you should be below the glide slope at that point. It doesn’t really give you vectors to your intercept heading unfortunately. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
January 22, 20233 yr Moderator 4 minutes ago, regis9 said: It doesn’t really give you vectors to your intercept heading unfortunately. Then it can hardly be called Air Traffic Control. Good grief! It fails the most important aspect of what such a program is required to do. Not fit for purpose springs to mind. What is Asobo’s attitude to the complaints? Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 22, 20233 yr 46 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Then it can hardly be called Air Traffic Control. Good grief! It fails the most important aspect of what such a program is required to do. Not fit for purpose springs to mind. What is Asobo’s attitude to the complaints? It's the primary reason why I preferred P3D's ATC, especially with the Editvoicepack mods. MSFS
January 23, 20233 yr 3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: What is Asobo’s attitude to the complaints? They have said a major update to ATC will come, not sure when though. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
January 23, 20233 yr On 1/20/2023 at 1:20 AM, Kaboki said: For me its not good enough, but I still use it every flight, because I have no choice... Well, you do. Life is full of choices. This thread contains a variety of other choices open to you. Kael Oswald 9950X3D/ 64GB DDR5 6200 @ CL30 / Custom Water Loop / RTX 5090 / 3 x 48" LG C4 OLEDs
January 23, 20233 yr Moderator 6 hours ago, regis9 said: They have said a major update to ATC will come, not sure when though. It sounds as though they don’t consider it a priority. I wonder if they have access to real world AT Controllers so they can get the phraseology correct both for FAA and ICAO. Plus what @asanosho mentioned about different TA levels and hPa instead of inches where appropriate. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 23, 20233 yr 5 hours ago, KL Oo said: Well, you do. Life is full of choices. This thread contains a variety of other choices open to you. Yeah well for me there isnt, so im waiting for asobo to improve it..
January 23, 20233 yr 59 minutes ago, Kaboki said: Yeah well for me there isnt, so im waiting for asobo to improve it.. Maybe some day, ( this or next year ) Asobo, better said WT for Asobo, takes this in his hands and we get a resonable ATC and in Sim Flightplanner. Same happens to the FMC Flightplans for the bigger planes for example the 787-10 and the 747-8.. That would be 👍 cheers 😉 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
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