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Fenix A320 or PMDG 737

Fenix A 320 versus PMDG 737 Preference. 304 members have voted

  1. 1. Which do you like to fly the most

    • Fenix Airbus A 320
      25%
      77
    • PMDG 737
      38%
      117
    • Like flying Both A 320 and PMDG equally
      36%
      111

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No offense to PMDG, but when I think about it I just don’t understand how you can compare both and not end up to the conclusion that the Fenix is a way better addon.

As said the texturing of the 737 is not up to Fenix or inibuild standard, same goes for the modeling. On the system side Fenix has a more complete integration, (circuit breaker, satellite position simulation, acars, better LNAV and VNAV) and this mighty EFB. 
On the FM side, both flies very well, equally as good I would say.

To some up, the A320 a way more complete package for less money, so I suspect part of the answer to the poll are personal preference for one or the other type of aircraft. 
That’s fine, in the end both aircraft are fundamentally different to fly and operate. It’s great to have the choice and have two great rendition of these aircraft, people should buy both if they can I think.  

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On 2/2/2023 at 3:08 PM, Bobsk8 said:

Am debating getting the 737, I really like the A 320 now, and wondering if users of both aircraft have a preference as to which they like to fly the most. 

Product page for 737-900 is up. $49.99.

The 737-600 is only $34.99, a steal for anyone who likes the 737 and doesn't care for realistic variants.
An entirely personal choice.

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4 hours ago, Ponymetzger said:

Lets see what Fenix will bring us with their 737. 

Well that’s a twist. Did I miss anything?

Phil Leaven

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26 minutes ago, DAD said:

Well that’s a twist. Did I miss anything?

Ignore him

5 hours ago, Ponymetzger said:

Lets see what Fenix will bring us with their 737. 

Hope they will never work on that plane, PMDG 737 is already good and is improving with frequent update. Let’s see what Fenix bring with the A320 V2, it will be awesome, then I think they should work on the rest of the A320 family, A321 and maybe A319 and let’s not forget the NEO variant of all those planes.

As for PMDG, I would love to see the Max from them

Edited by cyril972

5 hours ago, Ponymetzger said:

Lets see what Fenix will bring us with their 737. 

Sounds like #FakeNews to me. You got some links or direct quotes to back up your spurious claim?

10 minutes ago, Ponymetzger said:

And why ?

As far as I know they will bring the 737. But not yet official.

They have said no such thing besides IAE and Sharklets. It is an assumption you are making.

12 minutes ago, Ponymetzger said:

And why ?

As far as I know they will bring the 737. But not yet official.

Ah…as I suspected. The reality is you know little to nothing. 

You really should not make claims like that on personal and uninformed opinions. That is a fools path

On 2/2/2023 at 1:16 PM, Noel said:

I just started w/ Airbus of any kind a couple of weeks ago and I too have the fabulous Boeing Yoke!  I find it's totally fine if in appropriate for the FBW 320NX.  BTW, the FBW's VNAV works great now, is importing both MSFS WM and SimBrief OFPs, and they even had good news on the occasional stutters/pauses that can happen during taxi especially.  I had a chance to test it and all of these had resolved though they are still looking at optimizing further.  I can emphatically state it's on a par w/ PMDG 738 for frame rate per se.  I've been tempted to do Fenix but it's a real tough sell to me now as the FBW is too good already.  The perf optimization hasn't yet been vetted to insert into any of their current versions but soon they say.

Try the fenix. It won’t be a tough sell once you buy it 

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14 hours ago, micstatic said:

Try the fenix. It won’t be a tough sell once you buy it 

I would except I don't believe they offer a 'trial'.  FBW seems to be getting there now and from all I gather is significantly easier on performance over the Fenix.  Outside of this modest stutter issue frame rate is equal to PMDG 738 and as I say I test flew the fix and it's been fixed, just not incorporated yet into their Exp version.

Noel

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Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

11 minutes ago, Noel said:

I would except I don't believe they offer a 'trial'.  FBW seems to be getting there now and from all I gather is significantly easier on performance over the Fenix.  Outside of this modest stutter issue frame rate is equal to PMDG 738 and as I say I test flew the fix and it's been fixed, just not incorporated yet into their Exp version.

Trust the community. You will be able to run it with more than fine performance.  Your only regret will be wishing you got it earlier. I also do not consider the performance to be materially different between the two.  

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1 hour ago, micstatic said:

Trust the community. You will be able to run it with more than fine performance.  Your only regret will be wishing you got it earlier. I also do not consider the performance to be materially different between the two.  

Who in the community?  It sounds amazing and I know you're a great source of reliable information but the general commentary, on average, suggests performance is anywhere from slightly to significantly worse for the Fenix v FBW and as an absolute stickler for performance this matters hugely to me.   Here's an example:

The PMDG is far and away the smoothest, least FPS hungry airliner for the sim at the moment. Fenix is absolutely terrible for frames, FBW also not fantastic but a lot better than Fenix, and the A310 is pretty decent. Still, nothing beats the 737 FPS for me smile.png

But above and beyond that the FBW is really fabulous, and it's free, and keeps improving.  Once the stuttering issue is solved and it appears close I just don't think it will be worth going to Fenix after all VNAV is working great, it hand flies wonderfully, sounds are decent, terrain radar is working quite frankly the actual differences between the two seem almost subtle at best.  I understand the Fenix is closer to 'study level' but that is much less important than capable and performance-friendly.  When was the last time you tried the FBW Experimental version?

 

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

On 2/7/2023 at 11:15 AM, roi1862 said:

TBH, i didn't even knew you can go the cabin from the cockpit in the 737 😆

never visited any cabin in any plane. In Fenix, 1st thing i did is to disable it. 

I agree. I have zero interest in going into the cabin to see a bunch of empty seats. It might be different if the seats were filled with animated passengers, and the number of passengers corresponded to the load sheet, but I imagine doing that would have an enormous performance impact. 

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

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