1 hour ago, hangar said:

Yes, I believe my climb was either this or very close to it (i.e. 35/25) but I will try again. If I did not pull up to 2500+fpm then my speed would go MUCH higher than the 130kias.

This is the turbo version im referring to btw. have not tested the regular yet.

This is an old article but has some good numbers - I believe the engine is the same because they list the MP as 39.5

1474fpm at sea level of course that would be max gross

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.aeroresourcesinc.com/uploads/198504-1985%20Beech%2058P%20Baron.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj08r716fT9AhW7jYkEHeiMA5gQFnoECBYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1vgd3Sf0yADl_6E72Bwn_G

 

3 hours ago, regis9 said:

So in the turbo Bonanza and Baron basically don’t touch the mixture as you climb to avoid messing up their simulation workaround?  What about on the ground, do you still need to lean a turbo engine for taxi?

Above the engines critical altitude or on the ground when the engine is running slowly you still need to use the mixture lever but you can't connect a controller directly to mixture axis or it messes up the internal hack.

 

37 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

This is an old article but has some good numbers - I believe the engine is the same because they list the MP as 39.5

1474fpm at sea level of course that would be max gross

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.aeroresourcesinc.com/uploads/198504-1985%20Beech%2058P%20Baron.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj08r716fT9AhW7jYkEHeiMA5gQFnoECBYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1vgd3Sf0yADl_6E72Bwn_G

 

I found similar looking numbers and a bit higher reports as well up to 1700 or so as maximum...while my test saw much higher numbers in the sim I was NOT at max weight, so i will try again later today as soon as I am able. let me know if you are getting close to these numbers on your end...and if you are seeing the same troubles with the slip ball.

I have just acquired the BS Analog Baron & read the pertinent section of the Manual re Failures.

Is there any way to set it to NO FAILURES? [I couldn't find it in the Manual]

I would like to do that so I can I learn the engine management & various Avionics options uninterrupted.

Then start looking at the  failures side of things.

Although I lost an engine on the 2nd shake down flight, from what I have seen so far it is a very systems comprehensive aircraft.

T45

Edited March 24, 20233 yr by Treetops45

1 hour ago, Treetops45 said:

Is there any way to set it to NO FAILURES?

Yes, turn down the failure settings on the "radar screen"

@ryanbatc So after some more flying around at various alts I still feel that it's overpowered to some degree, so I reduced the engine power scalar to 0.525.

Climb rates seem a bit more plausible to me now and I only lose 10kts at the top end in the higher altitudes which I think is also more in-line with published cruise speeds anyway.

For the past 2 years, I had a suspicion the default Baron had too much power too and I was using the ‘wear & tear’ slider. At full value, it took some wind out if its sails and was more believable.

Having a turbo will give any aircraft better high altitude climb performance but doesn’t necessarily give it rocket speed. The reduced power scalar might be my tweak too. 

14 minutes ago, Danno said:

For the past 2 years, I had a suspicion the default Baron had too much power too and I was using the ‘wear & tear’ slider. At full value, it took some wind out if its sails and was more believable.

Having a turbo will give any aircraft better high altitude climb performance but doesn’t necessarily give it rocket speed. The reduced power scalar might be my tweak too. 

The turbo Baron engines in the Enhancement are turbo-charged rather than just turbo-normalized so increase the manifold pressure and power at sea level, not just at altitude.

I obviously can't say if the performance increase is correct or not but it should be faster than the default Baron at all altitudes

Not sure what I am doing wrong, or where to look but I can not get the cabin temperature to turn up, when I pull the defroster and heat out the cabin temperature remains in the 35 40 degrees. 

11 minutes ago, pcartier1960 said:

Not sure what I am doing wrong, or where to look but I can not get the cabin temperature to turn up, when I pull the defroster and heat out the cabin temperature remains in the 35 40 degrees. 

Did you pull out the cabin and pilot air knobs, and also put the blower on low?

Edited March 25, 20233 yr by hangar

 

2 hours ago, Matchstick said:

it should be faster than the default Baron at all altitudes

The speed is now closer to 58P performance numbers you see posted around the net, for climbing. For top end speed I'm getting about 235 true...which is accurate for some 58P's and perhaps 10kts shy for others...but considering it's age I'd say you wouldn't find any 58P's from the 1970's able to run at 245 this year anyway, heh 🙂

On 3/24/2023 at 2:18 PM, JustFlightScott said:

Cumbersome even 🙂

It's not a method that has caused too much hassle up until now to be honest and the majority of the sales for the Baron are from people using their codes.  Remember you do get notification of the code and the actual code delivered into your account at the point of the original purchase of the Bonanza. And we've tried to mention it many times across all the marketing elements as we've approached the release of the Baron.

If you send me a direct message I can sort something out for you to compensate for missing out on this deal. Happy to do that if it helps.

 

Thanks for Your offer, but don´t make too much out of it.

I´m  happy to pay the full price for these outstanding proucts.

It seems I didn´t read the info thoroughly enough.

On 3/24/2023 at 11:33 AM, Matchstick said:

Above the engines critical altitude or on the ground when the engine is running slowly you still need to use the mixture lever but you can't connect a controller directly to mixture axis or it messes up the internal hack.

 

Not sure if I am doing something wrong but I use one of my joystick axis to control the mixture and it seems to work fine.

It climbs fine and at 20k I lean the mixture. I can see the mixture knob in the display moving in sync to my hardware axis.

When at cruise, the rich of peak procedure works fine using my hardware axis.

 

12 hours ago, hangar said:

Did you pull out the cabin and pilot air knobs, and also put the blower on low?

Nope, that did the trick! thank you!

15 minutes ago, pcartier1960 said:

Nope, that did the trick! thank you!

I realized today that you only need the cabin heat air knob pulled, not the pilot air...I dont think you need the blower on either. Just the heater switch and cabin heat air knob should do it. Another thing, only pull the knob out a tiny bit so that way things wont over heat.