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Thoughts on Carenado PC-12

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The only two Carenado aircraft that have 'expired' for Marketplace exclusivity are the C182T and the PA44 Seminole (I think from memory, their first two releases).  Those two are now availably from several vendors, including Jf and Simmarket. As Ryan says, others will follow when their exclusivity contract expires.

It'll always be behind though and if you want the 'latest and greatest' Carenado releases, the Marketplace will still be the only place to purchase from. 

The encrypted files drive me mad too.   I regularly make a few AP tweaks to most planes and the ones that are encypted are always the ones most in need of the tweaks!

Edited by JYW

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46 minutes ago, JYW said:

 

It'll always be behind though and if you want the 'latest and greatest' Carenado releases, the Marketplace will still be the only place to purchase from. 

 

Unless they only entered into a timed agreement....  perhaps with a new release they don't exclusively release to MP... maybe MP and their site?  We can only hope.  I was able to contact them a month or so ago, and they are still working on a new project...  I hadn't seen anything new from them so I was curious.  

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2 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

they are still working on a new project...  I hadn't seen anything new from them so I was curious. 

Santa Claus will deliver it. my dream would be Embraer Phenom, but I doubt it.

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60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

26 minutes ago, turbomax said:

Santa Claus will deliver it. my dream would be Embraer Phenom, but I doubt it.

FSR will do that should be pretty good

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7 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

Unless they only entered into a timed agreement....  perhaps with a new release they don't exclusively release to MP... maybe MP and their site?  We can only hope.  I was able to contact them a month or so ago, and they are still working on a new project...  I hadn't seen anything new from them so I was curious.  

Very true, yes could be.  Hopefully their exclusivity deal will finish soon.

Bill 😎
FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • Bluesky Grumman AA5 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 
TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro
9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000
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6 hours ago, turbomax said:

Santa Claus will deliver it. my dream would be Embraer Phenom, but I doubt it.

That would be an absolutely fantastic Christmas present! 🤗🥂

Andrew

16 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

I think you still need a serial key like their previous fsx products.  But the files aren't locked behind drm (.fsarchive) like on the MP.

Is it still possible to install liveries etc. from outside the MP with the MP version?

4 hours ago, Mike44 said:

Is it still possible to install liveries etc. from outside the MP with the MP version?

Yes.

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I am considering buying the Carenado PC12 after seeing a couple of videos of the SWS PC12 - no failures and not even hot starts modelled. 

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On 11/22/2023 at 12:48 PM, turbomax said:

Santa Claus will deliver it. my dream would be Embraer Phenom, but I doubt it.

Perhaps this is old news here, but the Phenom will enter full time development by FSReborn in January of 2024.

4 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I am considering buying the Carenado PC12 after seeing a couple of videos of the SWS PC12 - no failures and not even hot starts modelled. 

I produced a series of Carenado PC12 videos that will give you future insight.

5 hours ago, The Flight Level said:

I produced a series of Carenado PC12 videos that will give you future insight.

Thank you - I found and watched the startup video which was very informative. I'll watch the others too, a nice series.

I have always liked Carenado aircraft and have most of them.  No doubt the SWS version will be very nice indeed, but when I saw it was limited in systems functionality, I took a look at the Carenado offering again.

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Carenado shared this video on the anniversary of its release. I also got a chance to play around with the latest 2.01 version and it's working beautifully for me. I've never been impacted by the fps drop others have reported although granted I normally only do shorter flights.

 

 

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12 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I am considering buying the Carenado PC12 after seeing a couple of videos of the SWS PC12 - no failures and not even hot starts modelled. 

Why not just get the TBM850, instead of a plane most people did not enjoy a year ago.

Pretty much the same plane and the TBM has everything you are looking for.

Food for thought as the saying goes

 

Ron

Edited by Ron Lefebvre

Ron

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2 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

No doubt the SWS version will be very nice indeed, but when I saw it was limited in systems functionality, I took a look at the Carenado offering again.

Because the Carenado version is so feature rich? 

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