Flytampa Amsterdam imminent

F737MAX · October 10, 2023

1 hour ago, B777ER said:

Without knowing this, you’re only telling everyone half the story .

It is not "half the story" as my post was:

Introduced as a 'first impressions' take.
Predominantly describing how it looked.

I find there are far too many variables between different PC setups, including how much the MSFS servers are being hammered at the time (or not) to give a fair comparison.

All I will say is that *on my PC*, with my choice of settings (Ultra / High) and my choice of add-ons, I noticed only a 1-2 FPS difference between DX11 and DX12.
However, the DX12 test was performed now, which is some 9 hours after my first look using DX11. Make of that what you will.

B777ER · October 10, 2023

1 hour ago, chapstick said:

Can we not quote people's screenshots? Thanks.

Sorry was on mobile and the forum software would not allow it. I tried….

B777ER · October 10, 2023

1 hour ago, F737MAX said:

It is not "half the story" as my post was:

Introduced as a 'first impressions' take.

Predominantly describing how it looked.

I find there are far too many variables between different PC setups, including how much the MSFS servers are being hammered at the time (or not) to give a fair comparison.

All I will say is that *on my PC*, with my choice of settings (Ultra / High) and my choice of add-ons, I noticed only a 1-2 FPS difference between DX11 and DX12.
However, the DX12 test was performed now, which is some 9 hours after my first look using DX11. Make of that what you will.

It’s not the frames that cause issues with DX12, it’s the insane amount of VRAM that is used when running under DX12. Most 3rd party scenery runs bad under DX12 because it’s not optimized. Heck, I even saw a post on Discord where iniBuilds said none on their scenery is optimized to work with DX12, only DX11. I think it’s dumb of them to solely focus on DX11 especially if MS2024 ships with just DX12. This is why they have a ton of complaints in their Discord, people are running out of VRAM when running DX12 and they keep saying they don’t see the issue, because all the dev’s use is DX11.

G-YMML1 · October 10, 2023

Сool down, folks. DX12 is still in beta officially. No complaints are taken, especially with 3rd party scenery.

Greazer · October 10, 2023

Pretty hard to beat FlyTampa. Long time legendary developer for FS.

pmplayer · October 10, 2023

So if that is the true that MS 2024 only comes with DX12 i assume that we can expect a lot of updates from the scenery Devs or that the individual scenery will have to be completely re-coded for DX12 if MS 2024 only supports DX12 .

I'm really excited to see what's going to happen..

cheers 😉

GSalden · October 10, 2023

32 minutes ago, pmplayer said:

So if that is the true that MS 2024 only comes with DX12 i assume that we can expect a lot of updates from the scenery Devs or that the individual scenery will have to be completely re-coded for DX12 if MS 2024 only supports DX12 .

I'm really excited to see what's going to happen..

cheers 😉

Using DX12 since day 1 of MSFS 2020 and still happy with it.

I do not see weird things at my third party scenery.

So MSFS 2024 will be no difference to me …

Btw : FT EHAM looks amazing 🤩

kiek · October 10, 2023

16 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

Does it have AI parking codes?

Well you don't need that if you use PSXTraffic.

PSXTraffic detected the following 267 parking positions with gateid's in the .bgl file.

Spoiler

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   <info name="date" value="Oct 8, 2023" />
   <info name="copyright" value="(c) 2023 Nico W. Kaan, Netherlands, All Rights reserved" />
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Edited October 10, 2023 by kiek

GSalden · October 10, 2023

34 minutes ago, kiek said:

Well you don't need that if you use PSXTraffic.

PSXTraffic detected the following 267 parking positions with gateid's in the .bgl file.

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Ixoye · October 10, 2023

3 hours ago, GSalden said:

Using DX12 since day 1 of MSFS 2020 and still happy with it.

I do not see weird things at my third party scenery.

So MSFS 2024 will be no difference to me …

Btw : FT EHAM looks amazing 🤩

You have the 4090 with 24GB VRAM, so of course you have no problems, but not everyone can afford that luxury.

GSalden · October 10, 2023

3 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

You have the 4090 with 24GB VRAM, so of course you have no problems, but not everyone can afford that luxury.

My Left view client has a 4080 with 16 Gb. More than enough.

The 4090 drives 2 displays which costs extra VRAM compared to just 1

NZ255 · October 10, 2023

5 hours ago, pmplayer said:

MS 2024 only comes with DX12 i assume that we can expect a lot of updates from the scenery Devs

Nah, 3rd party devs won’t have to worry about stuff like that. That’s all on Asobo to currently interpret the polygons, materials and displays. Which already works in the DX12 beta.

You may be thinking of when XPlane went from opengl to vulkin. That was because (as far as I recall) they allowed 3rd party devs to “draw” directly to the screen with opengl code. Not a problem for MSFS as devs never had that level of control.

Edited October 10, 2023 by NZ255

pmplayer · October 10, 2023

2 hours ago, GSalden said:

My Left view client has a 4080 with 16 Gb. More than enough.

The 4090 drives 2 displays which costs extra VRAM compared to just 1

15 minutes ago, NZ255 said:

Nah, 3rd party devs won’t have to worry about stuff like that. That’s all on Asobo to currently interpret the polygons, materials and displays. Which already works in the DX12 beta.

You may be thinking of when XPlane went from opengl to vulkin. That was because (as far as I recall) they allowed 3rd party devs to “draw” directly to the screen with opengl code. Not a problem for MSFS as devs never had that level of control.

We will see after MSFS 2024 it's out, hoping the best..🤪

cheers 😉

Christopher Low · October 10, 2023

I would be curious to see some screenshots of the "less detailed" areas of the airport, to see how it compares to those same areas in my P3D version of the airport....

Matthijs · October 10, 2023

26 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I would be curious to see some screenshots of the "less detailed" areas of the airport, to see how it compares to those same areas in my P3D version of the airport....

For example the "jagged" water-lines/canels around EHAM in the distance.
The road textures are also a bit simple and low quality Fs9 style

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