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MSFS Auto FPS App

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1 hour ago, MarcG said:

I'm really not trusting the in game one, can't tell if it's actually working or not so to have the backup of AutoFPS would be nice if not too much trouble.

I agree! Also, there are SO many more options in AutoFPS. I have no idea how difficult it would be to implement though. 

I'm trying to test if the 2024 in-sim option is working. Set TLOD to 800 in usercfg.opt. Then I set target FPS to 65 (I'm using nvidia frame gen). I loaded into Salzburg, and got max 75 something FPS on the ground. In theory, the sim should reduce TLOD if FPS falls below target. Need to do a lot more testing. 

But anyway, there's probably a separate thread on the default option. Somewhere. 

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1 minute ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I agree! Also, there are SO many more options in AutoFPS. I have no idea how difficult it would be to implement though. 

I'm trying to test if the 2024 in-sim option is working. Set TLOD to 800 in usercfg.opt. Then I set target FPS to 65 (using nvidia frame gen). I loaded into Salzburg, and got max 75 something FPS on the ground. In theory, the sim should reduce TLOD if FPS falls below target. Need to do a lot more testing. 

But anyway, there's probably a separate thread on the default option. Somewhere. 

Question, if I am using the RivaTuner why would one need AutoFPS? Isn't it essentially the same thing? or does it work differently?

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14 minutes ago, Lotharen said:

Question, if I am using the RivaTuner why would one need AutoFPS? Isn't it essentially the same thing? or does it work differently?

RivaTuner is good for limiting FPS (reduce CPU/GPU load, heat output, fan noise etc + make sim run more smooth). AutoFPS dynamically changes TLOD (and also OLOD and cloud detail) based on a target FPS value (or full "auto mode") to prevent FPS from going too low on takeoffs/approaches, but still enabling decent TLOD up at altitude. 

Example:

Approach to London Heathrow in an airliner = very performance-intensive scenario. AutoFPS reduces TLOD so that FPS is acceptable. 

Cruising over the Alps: a lot more performance headroom, hence AutoFPS can crank up TLOD so that the scenery looks a lot better. 

It's possible to combine FPS-lock with RivaTuner and AutoFPS, but there's a few things to consider before doing that. 

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Here's another vote for the AutoFPS and DynamicLOD apps to be adapted for FS2024, if Reset should be so inclined to do.

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2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

RivaTuner is good for limiting FPS (reduce CPU/GPU load, heat output, fan noise etc + make sim run more smooth). AutoFPS dynamically changes TLOD (and also OLOD and cloud detail) based on a target FPS value (or full "auto mode") to prevent FPS from going too low on takeoffs/approaches, but still enabling decent TLOD up at altitude. 

Example:

Approach to London Heathrow in an airliner = very performance-intensive scenario. AutoFPS reduces TLOD so that FPS is acceptable. 

Cruising over the Alps: a lot more performance headroom, hence AutoFPS can crank up TLOD so that the scenery looks a lot better. 

It's possible to combine FPS-lock with RivaTuner and AutoFPS, but there's a few things to consider before doing that. 

Gotcha, thanks for that explanation! I'll look into AutoFPS once that is ready for 2024.

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2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

AutoFPS dynamically changes TLOD (and also OLOD and cloud detail) based on a target FPS value (or full "auto mode") to prevent FPS from going too low on takeoffs/approaches, but still enabling decent TLOD up at altitude. 

I believe this is what the frame limiter does in the sim. If your system cannot maintain your selected FPS, it adjusts the LOD. If it can be turned off then probably Auto FPS will work also.

 

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2 hours ago, vgbaron said:

I believe this is what the frame limiter does in the sim. If your system cannot maintain your selected FPS, it adjusts the LOD. If it can be turned off then probably Auto FPS will work also.

Yes I think so. I tried to test it today, but it was a bit silly of me to set TLOD to 800 in usercfg.opt. With a more civilized TLOD of 400, performance was very good, even flying into EDDM with lots of AI traffic. 

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I would also love to have this App in MSFS 2024. I believe the in-game dynamic setting reduces all settings and not just TLOD. I don't want all this other stuff reduced. just the TLOD like I can with this App.

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16 hours ago, brosss said:

Hi @Reset XPDR, are there any plans to make AutoFPS for MSFS 2024?

Not while MSFS 2024 remains the steaming hot mess it was released like. I can't even quantify what affects what in its current state.

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2 hours ago, Reset XPDR said:

Not while MSFS 2024 remains the steaming hot mess it was released like. I can't even quantify what affects what in its current state.

Hang in there. We may need you. I cannot discern that MSFS 2024 has embraced any dynamic (on the fly) adjustments to performance-related settings.  After patiently taking time to learn the interface for setup of flight controls, and getting Fltplan Go, Addons Linker, Navigraph and Navigraph Charts, and Active Sky dialed in, I completed my first MSFS 2024 flight.  I saw framerates mostly in the mid-40's where I was seeing double that with AutoFPS and MSFS 2020.  My system specs appear below and have not changed with the 2024 launch.

I flew out of LVFR's Miami Intl and did not get hit with any visible performance issues.  My destination was a small bur well done and detailed addon KBMG in Bloomington, Indiana, done by JDaniels (available at TO). So I have not yet flown into areas like NYC, Chicago, Dallas, or LA.

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@Reset XPDR

MSFS 2024 seems to be a lot more stable now.

 

Sure there are bugs but these will only get solved the more people use the sim. Your app certainly makes the sim a lot more usable for so many people.

The in-game dynamic quality is nowhere near as good as your application in so many different ways, interface, being able to see what the app is doing, amazing customisation of TLOD, ability to select which settings are being changed, altitudes for TLOD changes etc. 

In my opinion it would still be a game changer for MSFS 2024. Especially considering the blurry ground textures, we really need that low TLOD on the ground for performance, but then need to get that TLOD up asap to counter the blurry textures. The MSFS dynamic is also too slow to react. Takes ages to reduce settings resulting in massive stutters on landing.

 

It would be so awesome if you were to consider doing the App for 2024, in my opinion it is certainly needed.

 

I would also certainly be happy to pay for it.

 

Best wishes

 

 

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At this point I am not a fan of the in game dynamic tool. I guess it's back to manually adjusting the TLOD setting as part of my work load. I would like to see Reset at least try to adapt his DynamicLOD program for FS2024.

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13 minutes ago, BaronKen said:

At this point I am not a fan of the in game dynamic tool. I guess it's back to manually adjusting the TLOD setting as part of my work load. I would like to see Reset at least try to adapt his DynamicLOD program for FS2024.

Yep, just would love a program like we had before when I can say, hey sim, give me always 50 TLOD on the ground and then increase it as I climb so long as i am above my frame rate target.

 

Then on descent start lowering it so it is 50TLOD when I am on the ground at the other end.

 

This simple little thing, makes sim performance way way better.

 

Even with high end PC, 24GB VRAM etc, I get periods in 2024 when it drops to single figure FPS when on the ground or in final approach... unheard of in 2020, especially when using an FPS app like Reset's.

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Apart from the newness of 2024's settings and what impact they have compared to 2020 being largely unknown at this time, the major hurdle is that 2024's settings are not located in the same memory space they were in 2020 and I lack the specific skills required to work out where to find them. As such, until either I can nut it out, which is not likely, or someone else can achieve this for me, future AutoFPS/DynamicLOD app compatibility is pretty much dead in the water.

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27 minutes ago, Reset XPDR said:

Apart from the newness of 2024's settings and what impact they have compared to 2020 being largely unknown at this time, the major hurdle is that 2024's settings are not located in the same memory space they were in 2020 and I lack the specific skills required to work out where to find them. As such, until either I can nut it out, which is not likely, or someone else can achieve this for me, future AutoFPS/DynamicLOD app compatibility is pretty much dead in the water.

And yet another reason to stay with 2020.  

 

 

 

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