2 hours ago, MDFlier said:

I seriously doubt that PMDG cares. 

On the surface I know they'll say they don't. But the RSR is a business man and as a business man I'd suggest he'd rather not have competition to deal with

5 hours ago, MDFlier said:

I seriously doubt that PMDG cares. 

Isn't it funny how PMDG started sharing more details on the MAX just when iFly began posting screenshots of theirs in MSFS? 

23 minutes ago, thepilot said:

Isn't it funny how PMDG started sharing more details on the MAX just when iFly began posting screenshots of theirs in MSFS? 

Why would that be strange?  It's the obvious thing to do.  Some people might well only commit funds to one or the other.

29 minutes ago, thepilot said:

Isn't it funny how PMDG started sharing more details on the MAX just when iFly began posting screenshots of theirs in MSFS? 

They haven't shared any more details than they already did ages ago.  They said a long time ago the MAX was coming out in-between the 777 variants, or around them.  Nothing has changed.

35 minutes ago, ErichB said:

Why would that be strange?  It's the obvious thing to do.  Some people might well only commit funds to one or the other.

Exactly my point. 

28 minutes ago, Jeff Nielsen said:

They haven't shared any more details than they already did ages ago.  They said a long time ago the MAX was coming out in-between the 777 variants, or around them.  Nothing has changed.

They said it was coming at some point, but withheld more details as recent as April 2022:

[08APR22] PMDG 737 for MSFS Developer Update - Entering the Home Stretch - PMDG Simulations

"The initial release phase is focused on the Next Generation series and we are not yet publishing any information about MAX."

In November 2023 the plan was still "to drop it ouf nowhere", Robert's exact words:

JT welcomes PMDG and The Pilot Club (youtube.com)

Only recently, and probably in response to the iFly previews, did PMDG say it was coming in between the 777 release cycle.

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, thepilot said:

Exactly my point. 

They said it was coming at some point, but withheld more details as recent as April 2022:

[08APR22] PMDG 737 for MSFS Developer Update - Entering the Home Stretch - PMDG Simulations

"The initial release phase is focused on the Next Generation series and we are not yet publishing any information about MAX."

In November 2023 the plan was still "to drop it ouf nowhere", Robert's exact words:

JT welcomes PMDG and The Pilot Club (youtube.com)

Only recently, and probably in response to the iFly previews, did PMDG say it was coming in between the 777 release cycle.

 

 

 

Yeah, agree with all that, but it's still all the same info and nothing really changed from the get go.  He didn't really nail it down that much.  Although from 2022, yeah, maybe...lol, but in 2023 they've pretty consistent on the messaging.

Edited April 23, 20242 yr by Jeff Nielsen

Will the 737 MAX get a new cockpit, or is the default PMDG 737 cockpit used but with just three bigger TFT screens on the main panel? With a whole new state of the art visual quality cockpit the release sounds very interesting. 🙂

A 737-400 with Smiths Industries EIS would be very interesting too, maybe PMDG is also going to make a classic version of the 737 some day.

1 hour ago, JetCat said:

Will the 737 MAX get a new cockpit, or is the default PMDG 737 cockpit used but with just three bigger TFT screens on the main panel? With a whole new state of the art visual quality cockpit the release sounds very interesting. 🙂

PMDG isn't going to make a whole new cockpit for their MAX. They will just reuse the current 737 NG cockpit, but of course, modify it for the MAX.  I don't see what the point in making a new cockpit is for, as long as the cockpit is accurate for the MAX.  The PMDG 737 NG cockpit is fine and most people say it is fine as well.

Edited April 23, 20242 yr by abrams_tank

10 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

PMDG isn't going to make a whole new cockpit for their MAX. They will just reuse the current 737 NG cockpit, but of course, modify it for the MAX.  I don't see what the point in making a new cockpit is for, as long as the cockpit is accurate for the MAX.  The PMDG 737 NG cockpit is fine and most people say it is fine as well.

Well, they did say they were using a brand new MAX as a reference for the cockpit modeling, and that would be reflected in the final product. On the other hand... PMDG are the masters of recycling. It will be interesting for sure how it turns out to be.

Edited April 23, 20242 yr by thepilot

5 hours ago, thepilot said:

Isn't it funny how PMDG started sharing more details on the MAX just when iFly began posting screenshots of theirs in MSFS? 

Not at all. It was obvious that PMDG would be modelling the entire MAX series for MSFS on the day that Boeing introduced the MAX to the public.

That's like asking, "Wouldn't be funny if Ben & Jerry introduced a new ice cream flavor with a crazy name?". 

If the MAX cockpit has significant differences to the NG, then I would expect PMDG to model this in their simulated version. Despite the comment above about PMDG being "the masters of recycling", they do not generally release products with "cut and paste" content from another product.

On 4/24/2024 at 11:39 AM, Christopher Low said:

If the MAX cockpit has significant differences to the NG, then I would expect PMDG to model this in their simulated version. Despite the comment above about PMDG being "the masters of recycling", they do not generally release products with "cut and paste" content from another product.

It does. I'd maybe compare it to the difference between the 747-400 and 747-8. Maybe a bit less than that.

Well, after the MSFS 2024 announcement today, assuming the MSFS 2024 737 Max was not made by PMDG (I believe the 737 Max is made in house by Asobo or Working Title), I am going to guess that the PMDG 737 Max will release before November 19th of this year.  After the 777 releases and some of the 777 bugs are ironed out, I can see Randazzo prioritizing the 737 Max release. 

This is assuming the PMDG 737 Max is near completion, something that Randazzo alluded to. Otherwise, if PMDG cannot release the 737 Max before November 19th, I think they will lose out on some sales of it, once MSFS 2024 comes out. There will still be buyers of the PMDG 737 Max after MSFS 2024 comes out, but for people that aren't looking for a study level airliner, those people might just stick with the 737 Max that comes with MSFS 2024.

I would also think Jorg approached Randazzo to buy the PMDG 737 Max for MSFS 2024. It would only be logical of Jorg to approach PMDG.  If Jorg did approach Randazzo, I can only imagine that Randazzo asked for too much money, so Jorg decided to do it in house. Anyways, this is speculation on my part.

Edited June 23, 20241 yr by abrams_tank

This is really going to put the cat amongst the pigeons!

In effect Asobo are calling PMDG’s bluff; how far along is their MAX?

If it’s really that developed they’ve now got a five month window to get it out the door or risk loosing a huge chunk of sales from the Xbox market and PC guys like me who dabble in airliners….

I'll always prefer a third-party addon to a default one. Always!

But if PMDG (and iFly, don't forget them) give up on MAX, I'll have no choice but to use the default when I switch (if I switch...) to "2024".