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Just Flight 146 v2 update available

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15 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

I see absolutely nothing wrong with this landing. Never thought of using the brake on final though.

It’s actually standard practice in the 146 to extend your tail airbrake before you touchdown.  I remember watching Jazz 146’s land at my local airport years ago and they would extend it just before touchdown to help settle the plane…maybe 30-40 feet AGL?  

I think they had to use air brakes on the EGLC approach due to the steepness as a standard operating procedure as well.

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21 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Just about to start a flight from Nice. Just had to share this image: 

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Stole this for my screen background. Hope you dont mind.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Sonosusto said:

Was the 300?

I’ve only tried the 300 so far.

1 hour ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

Stole this for my screen background. Hope you dont mind.

Not at all. The sim can look really pretty, especially at dusk/dawn.

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3 hours ago, regis9 said:

It’s actually standard practice in the 146 to extend your tail airbrake before you touchdown.

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I think they had to use air brakes on the EGLC approach due to the steepness

Correct.

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Is there any official word  on fixes for autopilot issue ?

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1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

Is there any official word  on fixes for autopilot issue ?

What AP issues?  Serious question, not a troll.

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47 minutes ago, btacon said:

What AP issues?  Serious question, not a troll.

-B

Basically at some point of time autopilot starts chasing altitude up/down or continuously  climb/descent ignoring autopilot command such as ALT hold. Cycling autopilot on / off while manually establishing desired speed and altitude doesn't solve the problem.  

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9 hours ago, Sonosusto said:

I see absolutely nothing wrong with this landing. Never thought of using the brake on final though.

I've got this ancient (filmed 1998!), exceptionally good DVD on the 146:-

Debonair BAe 146 by ITVV

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If you love the 146, it's a fantastic 3 hour long DVD with surprisingly good camera quality (7 cameras on the flight deck) for it's vintage.

The captain covers every square inch of the 146!

....anyway, I recall being very surprised that the speedbrake is employed in the air, but yes, on the DVD, they put it out around 100' from touchdown.

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1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

Basically at some point of time autopilot starts chasing altitude up/down or continuously  climb/descent ignoring autopilot command such as ALT hold. Cycling autopilot on / off while manually establishing desired speed and altitude doesn't solve the problem.  

Heh, then it’s not me LoL. Release day I experienced much of what you described but it wasn’t sustained so I just thought, “nube”.  I’ve not put a lot more time in the plane since hence my question.

Thanks again,

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9 hours ago, JYW said:

anyway, I recall being very surprised that the speedbrake is employed in the air, but yes, on the DVD, they put it out around 100' from touchdown.

That’s interesting. I guess it would be necessary at London City. Is it standard procedure? Sorry if this was already mentioned in this thread.

18 hours ago, regis9 said:

It’s actually standard practice in the 146 to extend your tail airbrake before you touchdown

It was! I had a feeling I had read it.

Speed management is a bit finicky at cruise, finding the right thrust setting to maintain a reasonable speed. Leaving the flight deck is probably not a good idea, and yesterday she nearly stalled while I was checking Avsim. Which of course would never happen in the real world, so my point is sort of moot. 

I haven’t had the autopilot issue. Yet.

Edited by Cpt_Piett

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10 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

Basically at some point of time autopilot starts chasing altitude up/down or continuously  climb/descent ignoring autopilot command such as ALT hold. Cycling autopilot on / off while manually establishing desired speed and altitude doesn't solve the problem.  

I had the same issue on my second flight yesterday on descend to VTPH, even when I switch the AP sync on, then manually trim to stabilize, and AP sync off, the pitch oscillation started again.

Another weird thing on my third flight, was on approach to WAHQ, aligned on the VOR, the plane did a continuous crab on me, roll 5-7° to the left and quite a lot of yaw to the right. Wind was calm, checked my axis in the option, they were neutral, speed was 210-200kt, all engine had equal output and AP sync was off.   

On 4/5/2024 at 9:18 PM, Cpt_Piett said:

Got something weird going on with the checklist. Anyone got this? And please don't hit me with the RTFM stuff, be nice 🙂

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By the way - has anyone got the visors to work? They seem stuck.

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1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

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By the way - has anyone got the visors to work? They seem stuck.

WD40.

Seriously, I couldn't get them to work either.

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Also I have to press buttons on the AP panel two or three times before they work. Strange.

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