21 minutes ago, versus said:

Real weather is just not a sum of METAR bubbles with random smoothing in between

What is this 'random' smoothing you talk of?

1 minute ago, Cpt_Piett said:

From a RW A320 flight, FL300, EDDL to LSZH. If I knew the date, I could probably use historical weather in AS to compare. 

https://youtu.be/aOQpOIfuanQ?si=w1OoYY1vMaPA_48o

 

Or compare to live weather and get a worse comparison.

9 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

From a RW A320 flight, FL300, EDDL to LSZH. If I knew the date, I could probably use historical weather in AS to compare. 

https://youtu.be/aOQpOIfuanQ?si=w1OoYY1vMaPA_48o

 

Comparing with real life pictures makes no sense, even less in cruise. Neither MSFS default nor AS will look exactly like that. Both will have their own interpretation of the data, and this will necessarily look different. Both *can* look like this, if this is what you mean, all types of clouds are available with the MSFS technology (with both use obviously). Actually I was thinking it's from MSFS when I first looked at it 🙂

12 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

From a RW A320 flight, FL300, EDDL to LSZH. If I knew the date, I could probably use historical weather in AS to compare. 

https://youtu.be/aOQpOIfuanQ?si=w1OoYY1vMaPA_48o

 

If you did and if it matched, it would be a stroke of luck. "Sometimes" I can look out the window and in sim and see the same but that's not a fair comparison. Whatever the METAR show, ASFS will try to represent it as best it can. Now, if you get clear blue skies with an occasional fluffy cloud - there is something wrong. 🙂 

Is there a verdict on the use of "RealTurb", does it co-exist with AS Turbulence?

29 minutes ago, TomCYYZ said:

Is there a verdict on the use of "RealTurb", does it co-exist with AS Turbulence?

Yes, I use both and they work together fine.

Regarding the in-cloud turbulence this is indeed a work in progress and I actually do not know if ASFS provides it in the current release version. But I can say that I do have in-cloud turbulence when using RealTurb and ASFS together, maybe it comes from RealTurb.

Anyway Realturb and ASFS are a very immersive combination when it comes to turbulence.

 

Re: the RW picture, I don’t expect AS to achieve this, just thought it was a good example of how RW weather can look, that’s it. I mean, if it’s capable of rendering something similar, I’d be very impressed.

1 hour ago, Fiorentoni said:

Comparing with real life pictures makes no sense, even less in cruise.

Within the context of the current limitations that affects AS, I agree. Based on what I e read in this thread. In a wider context, every single weather related discussion here on Avsim have comparisons with real weather. After all, realism is what most of us crave.

43 minutes ago, RALF9636 said:

Anyway Realturb and ASFS are a very immersive combination when it comes to turbulence.

Could excessive turbulence affect the Fenix negatively?

Edited April 20, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett

6 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Re: the RW picture, I don’t except AS to achieve this, just thought it was a good example of how RW weather can look, that’s it. I mean, if it’s capable of rendering something similar, I’d be very impressed.

Could excessive turbulence affect the Fenix negatively?

Yes, AS can display something like that under proper conditions.

To my understanding, excessive turbulence caused some issues with the Fenix but the apparently have been resolved in the last update. Perhaps someone with the Fenix can confirm.

BTW, on my old system (7700k) 3090 - using AutoFPS and FG and all MSFS settings on ultra - I'm getting between 50-70FPS with AS running and no appreciable difference when it is not.

Since I have been only praising AS so far, here comes a negative point: On the flight right now I have (for the first time) clearly noticed a transition. I had the smoothing already set to 30 and judging by the manual it should take about 5 minutes for the transition with that setting. However it took only 5 seconds for a cloud to appear right in front of me. It's either bugged or I understand the manual wrong. @Damian Clark shouldn't that setting mean that the rendering of a new cloud would go over about 5 minutes?

12 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

Since I have been only praising AS so far, here comes a negative point: On the flight right now I have (for the first time) clearly noticed a transition. I had the smoothing already set to 30 and judging by the manual it should take about 5 minutes for the transition with that setting. However it took only 5 seconds for a cloud to appear right in front of me. It's either bugged or I understand the manual wrong. @Damian Clark shouldn't that setting mean that the rendering of a new cloud would go over about 5 minutes?

I have seen this as well sporadically. To narrow this down: Was this the transition to the destination weather or somewhere in cruise?

Edited April 20, 20242 yr by RALF9636

22 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Could excessive turbulence affect the Fenix negatively?

Apart from a bug in the initial release version which has been fixed meanwhile I haven't had issues with the Fenix.

 

I've noticed that in order for AS to connect, I always have to manually click on ActiveSkyUtils.exe in the addon folder in my C drive after booting up MSFS.  This .exe is excluded in my antivirus and I've removed all extra toolbar mods.  

Isn't this .exe supposed to run automatically?  FWIW, I have MSFS (and AS itself) installed on my D drive, with this Appdata/Roaming/...addon folder in my C drive.  Not sure if that makes a difference.

 

3 minutes ago, mikeklimek said:

I've noticed that in order for AS to connect, I always have to manually click on ActiveSkyUtils.exe in the addon folder in my C drive after booting up MSFS.  This .exe is excluded in my antivirus and I've removed all extra toolbar mods.  

Isn't this .exe supposed to run automatically?  FWIW, I have MSFS (and AS itself) installed on my D drive, with this Appdata/Roaming/...addon folder in my C drive.  Not sure if that makes a difference.

 

Check your exe.xml (...\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache) if there is an entry for Active Sky. If not, reinstall.

Edited April 20, 20242 yr by RALF9636

2 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

Indeed, actually I didn't even see the link. My bad, sorry. Anyway: All turbulences are working in each of the two modes AS offers.

My question was specifically about turbulence in clouds which, looking at the text (thanks Allvega), it seems is not available in passive mode. Understandable as I’m guessing they can’t tell exactly where the clouds are when MSFS is managing them, but it’s kind of the last thing keeping me on the fence at the moment.

Will keep an eye on the development.

Edited April 20, 20242 yr by scotchegg

1 hour ago, vgbaron said:

And no one said the map was a satellite image OR a highly accurate depiction. It has always been a representation of the weather not a reproduction. In P3D the weather RADAR was accurate, this map is just provided for reference. Use the briefings or the comms to get current data.

I don't own AS but would be interesting if someone could provide a zoomed out snapshot from the sim that corresponds roughly to AS map area?  I bet they don't differ much