On 5/5/2024 at 12:56 PM, Bobsk8 said:

PF3 does all the things in that test "good," and has been doing them for years, and it doesn't cost $330 a year. 

Hey Bob,

I've been tempted to give PF3 a fair chance since you mentioned it sometime ago.

One question, and sorry for hijackying the thread: Does PF3 do AI traffic control too ?

28 minutes ago, jcomm said:

Hey Bob,

I've been tempted to give PF3 a fair chance since you mentioned it sometime ago.

One question, and sorry for hijackying the thread: Does PF3 do AI traffic control too ?

The only one that does AI control is FSHud. 

On 5/5/2024 at 10:20 AM, Noell said:

"Good grief" is putting mildly.

I've done the 24 hour demo twice and I really like Say Intentions.

That said, I'm in Canada where the $300 US per year becomes $410.50 and there just might another 13% tax on top of that!

Impossible to justify at that price IMO.

I also tried it for a full month and loved it. VFR very well done. I was quite impressed by the whole package actually, but when i went back to FSHUD I found I did not miss it that much.

Not quite sure why. 

7 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

The only one that does AI control is FSHud. 

So does VoxATC, in late beta

1 hour ago, jcomm said:

One question, and sorry for hijackying the thread: Does PF3 do AI traffic control too ?

PF3 does interact with AI traffic (i.e., ATC speaks with them), but the traffic control is left to the base sim (either MSFS, P3D...or FS9👴). You may notice this while waiting for the plane before you to take off.

It's not hard on FPS, but it's a bit limited regarding callsigns.

Edited May 7, 20242 yr by Luis Hernandez

52 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

The only one that does AI control is FSHud. 

 

3 minutes ago, Luis Hernandez said:

PF3 does interact with AI traffic (i.e., ATC speaks with them), but the traffic control is left to the base sim (either MSFS, P3D...or FS9👴). You may notice this while waiting for the plane before you to take off.

It's not hard on FPS, but it's a bit limited regarding callsigns.

Thanks guys !

21 minutes ago, Luis Hernandez said:

PF3 does interact with AI traffic (i.e., ATC speaks with them), but the traffic control is left to the base sim (either MSFS, P3D...or FS9👴). You may notice this while waiting for the plane before you to take off.

It's not hard on FPS, but it's a bit limited regarding callsigns.

 

That's great!

At the moment only 2 products with AI interaction available to purchase -FSHUD and PF3?.

Jay

 

2 hours ago, kevinfirth said:

So does VoxATC, in late beta

Good to hear this. 

Hope it makes it to release

Just now, jkeye said:

Good to hear this. 

Hope it makes it to release

Oh it will, it will be the only true full ATC environment not just an addon

On 5/5/2024 at 4:57 AM, techman said:

Of course.

 

EDDW SOFED1L SOFED N125 EEL DCT LONAM N610 NATEB Y96 AGPED AGPED1E EGPH

Fenix

 

 

On 5/5/2024 at 4:07 AM, techman said:

3 times the same flight:

Your previous post
"Posted Sunday at 01:34 AM (edited)
Mine is not even running - it doesnt connect to the simulator.

Early Access. 🙂 As expected. Watch their discord before you buy."

How could you run the flight three times when the flight block time is close to 3 hours for this run in a jet airliner! Your not running post was posted Sunday 1:34am and then your three flights with a post time of Sunday 4:07am?

This is not possible unless you were flying for NASA.

On 5/5/2024 at 6:26 AM, Ray Proudfoot said:

@techman, has gone to the trouble of comparing the same flight with three different ATC programs. The best way to check if you agree or not is to fly the same route and report your findings. Remember to depart at the same time / date for an accurate comparison.

This is a completely objective test. Things either work or they don't. For those of you who have used Radar Contact v4 that would be a useful comparison if you still have P3D installed.

Hi Ray,

Based on his/her post timing, that test isn't possible! 

1 minute ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

Hi Ray,

Based on his/her post timing, that test isn't possible! 

I don’t understand your point. P3D with Active Sky can be set to the same time as his MSFS tests. RC4 has all those phases of a flight. Why isn’t a comparison possible?

Just now, Ray Proudfoot said:

I don’t understand your point. P3D with Active Sky can be set to the same time as his MSFS tests. RC4 has all those phases of a flight. Why isn’t a comparison possible?

Think you missed what my post was saying Ray.

At 1:34am on Sunday techman posted that he was unable to get BATC working as quoted in my above post, yet less than three hours later he posts that he ran three flights to conduct his test. Flight time for the departure and arrival airports put the ride at just under 3 hours.

How did he perform three flights in under three hours? to/from: EDDW / EGPH ?

Skipped cruise, jumped ahead to TOD and just marked them all as "Good"?

13 minutes ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

Think you missed what my post was saying Ray.

At 1:34am on Sunday techman posted that he was unable to get BATC working as quoted in my above post, yet less than three hours later he posts that he ran three flights to conduct his test. Flight time for the departure and arrival airports put the ride at just under 3 hours.

How did he perform three flights in under three hours? to/from: EDDW / EGPH ?

I don’t have MSFS but my guess is the same as Luis’s. He time accelerated his flights between TOC and TOD.