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A miracle ? LSFG (Lossless Scaling Frame Generation)

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I am speechless.
We see so many miracle recipes for doubling FPS that no one trusts or pay attention to them.
I use a large 55-inch 4K screen with an RTX 4090 and I thought I would never be able to increase the smoothness to this extent while doubling the fps.

However... 
I am so grateful to our friend IslandSimPilot that I would kiss him passionately if he were a beautiful woman... 😊
For less than $10, I just got the best deal of my entire flight sim life.

1/ Works in HDR on a 165Hz screen.
2/ No need to have the Steam version, it works perfectly with the Store.
3/ No notable artifacts.
4/ Works in "full" screen.
5/  And yes, it doubled my fps!!

Try this program, if it does not suit you you can request a refund.
And if it suits you, buy IslandSimPilot a virtual beer. 👍

 

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This is with FSLTL+ AS running.
And here are my settings:
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does it work for VR?

 

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11 minutes ago, Brandon01110 said:

does it work for VR?

 

I am not sure, actually.


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Is this not frame generation but in a non native way?


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As far as I understand, it doubles the insim FG which is enabled.
 


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I don't use DLSS FG w/ my 4090 because I can't tolerate the strobing/flickering out the side window on tarmac and the screen judder when I move focus back to the main MSFS screen.  Do you see any artifact at all with this new method?


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Just now, Noel said:

I don't use DLSS FG w/ my 4090 because I can't tolerate the strobing/flickering out the side window on tarmac and the screen judder when I move focus back to the main MSFS screen.  Do you see any artifact at all with this new method?

I need more experimentation but so far, no more artifact than the default FG ones.


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Just now, David Roch said:

I need more experimentation but so far, no more artifact than the default FG ones.

Ok that's all I need to see--if it's the same then it's a no go for me.  Thanks

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5 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Is this not frame generation but in a non native way?

Result is much smoother than the "original" FG, with better fps.

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1 minute ago, David Roch said:

Result is much smoother than the "original" FG

Much smoother?  Must have been something other than DLSS FG for your system. At least for me as I never saw anything not 'smooth' with DLSS FG and I dared use RTSS to control rate with.


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1 minute ago, Noel said:

Much smoother?  Must have been something other than DLSS FG for your system. At least for me as I never saw anything not 'smooth' with DLSS FG and I dared use RTSS to control rate with.

Yes, I know, It seems that you are famous on the forum for that! 😉


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Just now, David Roch said:

Yes, I know, It seems that you are famous on the forum for that! 😉

Well I was summarily told by Pathos I think his name was that RTSS is forbidden w/ DLSS FG because it made his mouse move as if it was being dragged thru molasses 😃😕🤪

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Noel

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@David Roch

In your first screenshot I see that you have FG enabled.

Does this mod override the default FG that has been built into MSDS ?

I could Imagine that it needs to be Off inside MSFS for the mod to work.

But as I did not try it I don’t know…


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