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Lossless Scaling settings...

jcomm
in Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020/2024)

Lossless Scaling settings 103 members have voted

  1. 1. RTX 4000 or 3000 series or other GPU?

    • RTX 4000 series
      33%
      34
    • RTX 3000 series
      44%
      46
    • Other (other NVIDIA, AMD, Intel, ...)
      22%
      23

  2. 2. DX11 or DX12?

    • DX11
      39%
      41
    • DX12
      60%
      62
    • Other (Metal, Zink, OGL, Vulkan )
      0%
      0

  3. 3. What's your base FPS limit, when scaling not active?

  4. 4. What scaling factor are you using?

  5. 5. Would you recommend Lossless Scaling to your best simmer friend?

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I am about to take the plunge but I would be grateful if you LS users could give me some additional insight ...

THANK YOU !!!

Edited by jcomm

Flying gliders since 1980

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3 hours ago, jcomm said:

I am about to take the plunge but I would be grateful if you LS users could give me some additional insight ...

THANK YOU !!!

It costs about 6GBP: less than two flat whites in central London, so think of it as two cups of foregone coffee 😉 

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    Just now, tfm said:

    It costs about 6GBP: less than two flat whites in central London, so think of it as two cups of foregone coffee 😉 

    Absolutely agree @tfm, but my query has more to do with curiosity regarding how I should configure it to better suite my desktop configuration, which is far from being "top" at present standards 🙂

    Flying gliders since 1980

    Flightsimming since 1992

    AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)

    3 hours ago, Tomaz Drnovsek said:

    It works on RTX 2000 series too.

    What does this mean ?

    Does it double your frames ?

    How is the smoothness and fluid if doubled ?

    I have a Nvidia 2080super in use and my FPS at a Airport is around 19-23 with a used Airplane, up in the air around 32 to 36 FPS..

    cheers 😉

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    26 minutes ago, jcomm said:

    Absolutely agree @tfm, but my query has more to do with curiosity regarding how I should configure it to better suite my desktop configuration, which is far from being "top" at present standards 🙂

    The variety of reported experiences suggests that this app, like life, gives most to those who already have plenty - but, unlike life, is not ungenerous to those who have not. 

    14900ks, RTX4090, 64Gb@6000-30-36-36-T2, Samsung 990Pro 2Tb , Dell G3223Q 32" 4k Gsync + 27" secondary monitor.
    Thrustmaster Airbus Edition throttles etc, TPR pedals, MiniCockpit FCU, WinWings FCU, WinWings Orion 2 F15E, WinWings A320 sticks.

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    12 minutes ago, pmplayer said:

    What does this mean ?

    Does it double your frames ?

    How is the smoothness and fluid if doubled ?

    I have a Nvidia 2080super in use and my FPS at a Airport is around 19-23 with a used Airplane, up in the air around 32 to 36 FPS..

    If have an 2080 Super, too.

     

    And the answers are:

    yes

    and

    great - when it works.

     

    I had issues when using the Fenix which I could not yet resolve, other planes (SR22, TBM 850) worked great and it's well worth the 7€ (for me).

    Edited by TomPi
    fixed typo

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    6 minutes ago, TomPi said:

    If have an 2080 Super, too.

     

    And the answers are:

    yes

    and

    great - when it works.

     

    I had issues when using the Fenix which I could not yet resolve, other planes (SR22, TBM 850) worked great and it's well worth the 7€ (for me).

    Could you please give some details reagarding what quirks you experienced with the FENIX 320 ?

    Flying gliders since 1980

    Flightsimming since 1992

    AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)

    • Author

    Interesting to find out there are still many using it with Dx11 !

    Edited by jcomm

    Flying gliders since 1980

    Flightsimming since 1992

    AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)

    2 hours ago, pmplayer said:

    I have a Nvidia 2080super in use and my FPS at a Airport is around 19-23 with a used Airplane, up in the air around 32 to 36 FPS.

    I really think you need to be able to run the sim at 30fps consistently for this app to work well. The key is getting it to match your monitor refresh rate to get the smoothness.  In my case, I am pretty dialed to 30 fps so I cap my fps at 30 in NCP and I use the 2x setting in the LS app  to match the 60hz that I run my monitor at.  If I dip below 30 for some reason (at a large airport with AI traffic) then the LS app doesn't really matter as I will still get the stutters and not as smooth.

    Edited by Flic1

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    24 minutes ago, Flic1 said:

    I really think you need to be able to run the sim at 30fps consistently for this app to work well. The key is getting it to match your monitor refresh rate to get the smoothness.  In my case, I am pretty dialed to 30 fps so I cap my fps at 30 in NCP and I use the 2x setting in the LS app  to match the 60hz that I run my monitor at.  If I dip below 30 for some reason (at a large airport with AI traffic) then the LS app doesn't really matter as I will still get the stutters and not as smooth.

    That may be the key to what my system is doing.  I run at mostly Ultra, 4K, 28" monitor, DX12, DLSS, with a 3080, with the 3xxx FG mod and AutoFPS.  Totally smooth, not stutters, FR anywhere from 65 to 130, mostly in the 80 FPS range. I cannot run at consistently at 30 FPS without AutoFPS and lowering many of those settings.  That then be why my system will not behave with LS.  I believe I will stick with the higher settings and AutoFPS.  My quality and performance does not beg me to back off to use a different app.  I am happy to acknowledge the great LS results reported by others.

    I would certainly hope that MSFS 2024 incorporate an overall optimized blend of these new innovations.

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    What bugs with this app..if I switch monitors to access Navigraph or other apps for the sim the go back to the main MSFS monitor now I have stutters and I have to either rescale again for it to go away or sometimes the stutters stick for a while.

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    I have to say that it's true, my experience is that it’s smoother, no ghost, but, and I don't understand why, now I have spikes on the fps (30/25). Maybe some settings are not correct?

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    My BIG problem with it is the loss of mouse control when I click on Scale and then the sim window.  About half the time the mouse cursor disappears.  I know the mouse cursor is moving because if I hit a box or tickable item it highlights but there is no mouse cursor on the screen.

    A second - even BIGGER issue is that the Lossless Scaling Frame Generation only works for me when the Lossless window is in focus.  When the mouse cursor is working, see above, and I click on a button or knob in the sim window - the frame rate drops to half of what it is when the cursor is in the Lossless window.  I see this in the LossLess Draw FPS numbers on the top left of the sim window.   The FG frame rate returns to 2x when I click in the LossLess window. 

    The app works great at generating frames but is very hard for me to use due to the two problems above. 

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    5 minutes ago, TacomaSailor said:

    My BIG problem with it is the loss of mouse control when I click on Scale and then the sim window.  About half the time the mouse cursor disappears.  I know the mouse cursor is moving because if I hit a box or tickable item it highlights but there is no mouse cursor on the screen.

    This problem disappeared for me when enabling "multi-display mode". 

    7 minutes ago, TacomaSailor said:

    A second - even BIGGER issue is that the Lossless Scaling Frame Generation only works for me when the Lossless window is in focus.  When the mouse cursor is working, see above, and I click on a button or knob in the sim window - the frame rate drops to half of what it is when the cursor is in the Lossless window.  I see this in the LossLess Draw FPS numbers on the top left of the sim window.   The FG frame rate returns to 2x when I click in the LossLess window. 

    It's the same with native FG - only works when sim is in focus. 

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