I also updated my Bios just before going from 32 to 64 last week (as well as Nvidia drivers) so it's hard to attribute the noticeable improvements to anything in particular but MSFS is definitely smoother than before with none of the occasional micro stutters I have always seen when panning around some cockpits in particular. My PC in general seems happier and quieter and much quicker to boot but updating the Bios was probably also a big contributing factor. If like me you can't afford to replace your PC but can afford some memory sticks, I would say it is certainly worth it, especially if like me you usually have other things on the go while flying. 

5 hours ago, Noel said:

My purchase got delayed during shipping.  Have you noticed a significant difference in any kind of stuttering that you believe you can probably contribute to the 64Gb?  That would be something I could get behind but outside of that, doubtful I will keep it as I can't see doing that 'just because'. 

Why don’t you actually get it and try it and return it if it doesn’t provide the gains you were hoping for?

9 hours ago, micstatic said:

Why don’t you actually get it and try it and return it if it doesn’t provide the gains you were hoping for?

Yep that's what I'm doing and why I said, "doubtful I will keep it...." if it doesn't make a significant difference.  It's just stuck somewhere in transit.

I doubt it will make any difference, however since ram is so cheap right now, it's a no brainer, $50 bucks for an additional 32gb, why not!

 

Edited October 9, 20241 yr by CarlosF

2 hours ago, CarlosF said:

I doubt it will make any difference, however since ram is so cheap right now, it's a no brainer, $50 bucks for an additional 32gb, why not!

 

No way I would blow $215 on 64Gb if it makes no difference, "just because".  I want to see significantly less stutter, which isn't bad already and want to see more ram in use as well as a decrease in frame time variance extremes in the identical scenario.   I'm pretty sure different systems will respond differently to 64Gb based on variables like screen resolution, type of drive paging happens on, other software running concurrently w/ MSFS, etc.  With that said I'll be totally delighted if it turns out 64Gb did make those meaningful differences.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

No way I would blow $215 on 64Gb if it makes no difference, "just because".  I want to see significantly less stutter, which isn't bad already and want to see more ram in use as well as a decrease in frame time variance extremes in the identical scenario.   I'm pretty sure different systems will respond differently to 64Gb based on variables like screen resolution, type of drive paging happens on, other software running concurrently w/ MSFS, etc.  With that said I'll be totally delighted if it turns out 64Gb did make those meaningful differences.

I find no reason to disagree, however to each their own.

22 hours ago, Noel said:

My purchase got delayed during shipping.  Have you noticed a significant difference in any kind of stuttering that you believe you can probably contribute to the 64Gb?  That would be something I could get behind but outside of that, doubtful I will keep it as I can't see doing that 'just because'. 

No I can't say I did, the barely noticeable micro stutters I had before were still present.

Btw, here in Sweden it's not particularly cheap, I had to pay $240 for two 32GB Dimms

Edited October 9, 20241 yr by Ixoye

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1 hour ago, Ixoye said:

No I can't say I did, the barely noticeable micro stutters I had before were still present.

Btw, here in Sweden it's not particularly cheap, I had to pay $240 for two 32GB Dimms

Shoot!  It's always possible there is another source for micro-stutters outside of paging activity, or some other esoteric component of Windows Memory Management that a larger sandbox might impact.  Did you do any pre and post tests for RAM in use, and reduction in frame time variance extremes?  Those seemed to be the main more objective evidence there was a difference.

Up in the FBW320nx dev version now out of KDEN and just no stuttering whatsoever w/ frames locked at 44, which is rare there for me.   Earlier, out of KEWR significant micro-stuttering here and there.  It's so hard to predict exactly what's causing what since you can have one flight virtually stutter free and the next not quite.

8 hours ago, Noel said:

No way I would blow $215 on 64Gb if it makes no difference, "just because".  I want to see significantly less stutter, which isn't bad already and want to see more ram in use as well as a decrease in frame time variance extremes in the identical scenario.   I'm pretty sure different systems will respond differently to 64Gb based on variables like screen resolution, type of drive paging happens on, other software running concurrently w/ MSFS, etc.  With that said I'll be totally delighted if it turns out 64Gb did make those meaningful differences.

If you wouldn't mind, could you do a CapFrameX before/after test? To check FTV and also total RAM usage. If so, you'd be the first one in this thread to provide some objective data. 

Not saying I don't trust the positive feedback in this thread. I'm on the verge of ordering 64GB...

EDIT: Just ordered 2x32GB G.Skill DDR5-6000 CL30-36-36-96 1.40V | €300 / $295

I'll do some before/after comparisons in a few days. Probably won't get much increased performance in terms of FPS, but hopefully the sim will run smoother in terms of better frame time variance. 

If not, I guess I have to do a lot of 4K video render at the same time as swimming...

Edited October 10, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

27 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

If you wouldn't mind, could you do a CapFrameX before/after test? To check FTV and also total RAM usage. If so, you'd be the first one in this thread to provide some objective data. 

Not saying I don't trust the positive feedback in this thread. I'm on the verge of ordering 64GB...

I will do a CFX for sure but limit it to stuttering since for some reason FTV capture doesn't work since I left Intel for AMD.  When there is no micro-stuttering animation is super fluid even at 40-45fps.  And will do identical complex scenarios pre and post checking for RAM in use.  Best way to monitor page file activity?

15 minutes ago, Noel said:

Best way to monitor page file activity?

Best way I've found is HWiNFO

There's another method which is not as intuitive - Windows performance monitor

@Fielder I'm truly sorry if this was too obvious for you. Not that I'm holding a grudge or anything

 

Edited October 10, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

"Corsair 64GB DDR5 6000 CL30" is currently the cheapest it's ever been at Amazon (£190). So I went ahead and ordered it. I'll sell my existing "Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30" kit.

I'll run some before and after benchmarks when I get it.

I put my previous 32GB on eBay with a very low starting price but there is an awful lot of memory for sale at the moment and the Amazon sale didn't help so if you are selling, don't expect to get much!

The 2x32GB version of my current RAM is currently CAD$45 off at Newegg so I decided to go for it.  If nothing else it should be good future proofing given it’s DDR5.