Thinking of purchasing navigraph charts.  

I know it has an app where you can view the charts worldwide.  Also It has airac which has all navigation points to be used

How does MSFS20 use this?  When a new one comes in we need to get that in to MSFS20 so FMS systems can use it?

Bit confused

 

There is an app, Navigraph Hub, that does a few things:

- It updates the base Airac in the sim writing down a new nav data file. I'm honestly not sure how this is different than what MS does each month.

- However, a lot of 3rd party airplanes don't use the base nav data and instead have an older nav database. The hub reads which 3rd party planes you have installed and you can update the airac those planes use from the hub as well.

There are basically three ways to display the Navigraph charts in MSFS:

1. Display the charts with the Windows app and view them on another monitor or use a single monitor and switch between the charts app and the simulator.

2. Display the charts with the MSFS toolbar.

3. If you own a GPS unit capable of displaying charts (like the TDS or PMS GTN 750) you can display them on the GPS screen.

Ok waypoints where does MSFS20 have them?   In there own Database? 

Does navigraph have there own?

The Charts program runs on Windows, MacOS, iOS, and Android so you can use a phone or tablet to display charts. The advantage of running Charts on the sim PC is that it can place a marker for your aircraft on the map. You can overlay approach charts on the map.

MSFS has its own AIRAC that is updated monthly and is used by all the included aircraft and avionics, and also some add-on aircraft. Some add-on-party aircraft only use the Navigraph AIRAC like PMDG and Fenix.

You can update the MSFS AIRAC with Navigraph but like BrammyH says I'm not sure exactly what improvements this provides.

3 minutes ago, flyingscampi said:

The advantage of running Charts on the sim PC is that it can place a marker for your aircraft on the map. You can overlay approach charts on the map.

That advantage (called geo-referencing) exists on the Android and iOS versions as well, so long as the tablet you're using is on the same network as your sim pc.  This is my preferred use model.  Charts is a very robust app with the kind of features you find on real-world apps like Garmin ForeFlight or FltPlan Go, and interfaces with Simbrief for a great planning/flying combination.  All included in the Navigraph package.

As for the data, my understanding is that the NavBlue data that MS uses is pretty airline-centric and doesn't offer all approaches to regional and smaller airports.  If you fly GA, this matters.  Also, Navigraph features Jepp charts, rather than the standard government charts if this matters to you.  In the US, I marginally prefer the Jepp approach plates to the FAA's, though I wouldn't choose Navigraph just to get Jepp.  Others may disagree.

 

Scott

55 minutes ago, wan2fly99 said:

Does navigraph have there own?

Navigraph is subscription based, try it for a month and decide for yourself, however if you like to fly and navigate like the RW pilots do, then navigraph is worth every monthly peny.

1 hour ago, TexasGary said:

There are basically three ways to display the Navigraph charts in MSFS:

1. Display the charts with the Windows app and view them on another monitor or use a single monitor and switch between the charts app and the simulator.

2. Display the charts with the MSFS toolbar.

3. If you own a GPS unit capable of displaying charts (like the TDS or PMS GTN 750) you can display them on the GPS screen.

You can also use a tablet or smartphone.  I find it works quite well on my iPad.  This could be appropriate for those with only one monitor.

Yep Surface/Ipad single screen user here as well.

What i also like about Navigraph is that you have the option to only install what you need.

Me being overly cautious and preferring to have as uncluttered a sim as possible I do not set up navigraph charts in any of my addon aircrafts EFB. and i also do not install its database to replace the ms2020 sim database. I only update the installed addon aircraft databases (777/737/A32X) as needed to keep them current. 

I do run the simlink utility on my sim pc and install the charts app and simbrief on my tablets. Do my flight planning on simbrief and move the plan over to charts as well as import the plan within my addon aircraft simbrief import solution. With simlink utiliy running in the background i have my moving map within the charts app on my ipad so that if i have to step away i can still completely track my flight along its route and have a detailed idea as to where exactly i am along the route map.

 

 

2 hours ago, TexasGary said:

Display the charts with the Windows app and view them on another monitor or use a single monitor and switch between the charts app and the simulator.

Or on a tablet which is what I normally use. 

2 hours ago, flyingscampi said:

You can update the MSFS AIRAC with Navigraph but like BrammyH says I'm not sure exactly what improvements this provides.

Also not sure about this.

2 hours ago, tttocs said:

As for the data, my understanding is that the NavBlue data that MS uses is pretty airline-centric and doesn't offer all approaches to regional and smaller airports

Interesting.

19 minutes ago, Maxis said:

and i also do not install its database to replace the ms2020 sim database. I only update the installed addon aircraft databases (777/737/A32X) as needed to keep them current.

Also interesting. So far I’ve updated the “sim AIRAC” using Navigraph Hub. I’m also using Navigraph navdata for a variety of addons - Fenix, PMDG, Active Sky, FSHud etc.

Edited October 3, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

2 hours ago, tttocs said:

That advantage (called geo-referencing) exists on the Android and iOS versions as well, so long as the tablet you're using is on the same network as your sim pc. 

Actually I don't think that there's a restriction that requires the tablet or remote to be on the same network. Symlink reports the simulator position back to the Navigraph servers on a regular basis and from there remote Chart apps on tablets, etc., can track that position wherever they are connected. It's all quite seamless and amazingly reliable. If memory serves correctly, Symlink works with all of the major simulators, too.

1 hour ago, jrw4 said:

Actually I don't think that there's a restriction that requires the tablet or remote to be on the same network.

Hmm.  Looking at things, I believe you're correct.

 

Scott

6 hours ago, wan2fly99 said:

Thinking of purchasing navigraph charts

I will wait just another 2 months since MSFS 2024 will have something similar based on Lufthansa LIDO charts. they are free and get updated every 2 months or so.  it will also come with a free powerful "Foreflight-like" flight planner. the best things in life are free, they say. 😄

Edited October 3, 20241 yr by turbomax

Wowo lot of info  I had Foreflight and now renewing  It was $156 Canadian and only had Canadian charts.

Was flying GA aircraft and it was great. But now sopped RWF 

 

7 hours ago, TexasGary said:

There are basically three ways to display the Navigraph charts in MSFS:

1. Display the charts with the Windows app and view them on another monitor or use a single monitor and switch between the charts app and the simulator.

2. Display the charts with the MSFS toolbar.

3. If you own a GPS unit capable of displaying charts (like the TDS or PMS GTN 750) you can display them on the GPS screen.

The charts also display in the now native MSFS G1000 and G3000,