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iFly 737 Max is out now (Pre release only)

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I was on the SPAD Discord and it looks like there are some hardware profiles in beta, hopefully releasing next week.

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  • Stearmandriver
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    I would say basically nothing flat-out "doesn't work".  There are things that can be improved, but not really any more so than a lot of airplanes that have been out for years and are considered decent

  • **We are now releasing version 1.0.0.** This announcement replaces the previous one from a few days ago. The changelog is also replaced. First, we would like to thank everyone who has contributed

  • Another "take 80% of the item, pay 100% and then we'll see" product. Even if i wanted this (it's just another boring 737, so skip anyway) i wouldn't buy it. This is getting out of hand, now even

20 hours ago, pmplayer said:

Rudder works fine for me now, there is a setting in the EFB somewhere like ruddertiller, this have to klick to on than i set up my sensitive settings and now it works more ore less OK.

Before it was very bad but after tiking that tiller to on its much better..

cheers 😉

I had to take a half hour to just figure out where everything is in the EFB.  I seem to have tempered it by putting the sensitivity to MIN.  I find this EFB really wonky and hard to navigate but I'm starting to get it.  PMDG and Fenix EFBs are mostly the same and intuitive.  I have been able to do a few good landings and ground handling seems to be better now.  Did a few landings with direct cross winds 20G30 and have gotten pretty good at it.

IFly EFB was designed by former assembly language programmer lol Everything is “ get”, “set” lol

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I just landed from my first flight, which was a shakedown flight - MCO to LAX - 5:10 minutes to put the Max through its paces and to see where she breaks. It is a "pre-release" after all.

1. As pointed out already, nosewheel steering is twitchy.
2. Speed below 10,000 was busted after leveling off at an altitude constraint on the SID.
3. I'm sure there are things that 737 drivers will find wrong, but since I'm not a 737 driver, I am blissfully unaware of them. If StearmanDriver is happy, then I'm happy.
4. The flight tablet needs work. It needs more chart integration and Simbrief METAR functionality, for sure. I found it to be the biggest weakness.

I found no memory leaks, performance was better than the PMDG or Fenix. I chose BMWorld's LAX with 100% FSLTL traffic and all settings on Ultra with LAX city scenery on purpose to see if there would be any issues. The HLYWD1 approach was simply beautiful, fluid, and without a single stutter. Handflying the approach after allowing the AP to fly her down to 1500 without any issues. Her manners are perfect and I put her down right where I wanted her and probably didn't even smoke the tires.

She's a well-modeled and beautiful aircraft. I'm not an outside or cabin view type of guy, but you can't help it. I think I spent an hour after I landed just looking around.

At the end of the day, I understand why PMDG punted on their MAX. Even in pre-release, she's now MSFS royalty. iFLY is no longer playing second fiddle to PMDG. If they pay attention to the feedback in pre-release it will exceed the PMDG NG by more than just a little bit. So I am more than satisfied with my $70 spend.

Ladies and gentlemen, we finally have a MAX for MSFS. I can't wait to see what iFLY does with her. Does anyone know if iFLY is developing the MAX 9?

Mike T. 

9 hours ago, longhaul747 said:

Okay I found the answers to my own questions.  Yes you can set it up as metric or standard in the EFB.  As for the Auto Throttle the switch acts like a slider and not a switch.  So turning the wheel on my mouse turned it on.  I would prefer it act the other way just so it matches pretty much all other aircraft but now that I know how to get it turned on its not a big deal!

You can change the controls to the default MSFS controls, just read the manual.

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1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

IFly EFB was designed by former assembly language programmer lol Everything is “ get”, “set” lol

That‘s normal verbage for *any* programming language

EDIT: That said this shouldn‘t mean it‘s the text the users reads on the frontend 😄

Edited by Fiorentoni

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9 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

Funny but I just read a discussion on their discord about this.  Apparently these vars already exist and are used, but a comprehensive list hasn't appeared in the documentation yet, so folks are looking at the .xml file to read them.  Here's a list someone has posted of what they've got working..  it's not a comprehensive list, but in case it helps: 

This is what I've used so far, all of these work, move the knobs and effect appropriately:

 

do you know if they have any output ones?  For example, the speed/alt/HDG digits that are displayed on the autopilot panel?  FCU we call it in an airbus.  Can't remember the boeing term.  

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Today, I was about to do my first flight in this aircraft. Something I've really looked forward to for the last few days since I bought it!

Everything started out fine, loved the sounds and visuals and the aircraft felt really nice both during taxi, rotation and initial climb. However, as soon as I engaged CMD A, things quickly became crazy.

The aircraft didn't follow LNAV but instead started flying in circles while at the same time constantly pitching up and down. Resulting in the airspeed dropping all the way to "Airspeed low" aural warning. A few seconds later, it dropped the nose and almost started a dive instead to catch up on speed. Even when the FMA showed N1, LNAV and VNAV SPD and with CMD A engaged. I then tried switching to ALT HLD and HDG SEL to calm things down a bit. Still no go, the aircraft kept doing it's weird things on its own.

I was surprised to say the least after seeing lots of videos where the aircraft behaved close to perfect. Like the streams by flightdeck2sim who really knows his stuff from the real world. I'm not a 737 pilot myself but I do have some 8000+ virtual hours in the 737. So I usually can make my way from A to B without these crazy things going on.

Really odd and I'm still trying to figure out what I could have missed. Again, based on how others seem to be able to fly the aircraft with none of these issues. Or at least, not as severe as this. I know it's early access but this is not flyable. Certainly not online on Vatsim.

Not sure if it would be worth trying a fresh reinstall and see if that will make any difference. And without messing around with any of the settings in the EFB. If I did something stupid in there.

I do hope there an easy explanation to all this. Would feel quite sad having to go back to the PMDG NG.

I saw how someone else had this too, linked below including a video clip of this madness.

https://discord.com/channels/1249718181149413477/1297099032791089173

RF leg to a rwy waypoint.  First sim navdata I've encountered that can do this (to be fair, I think this is the only approach in the country that uses such a thing.). 

https://imgbox.com/YQXwfj4U

Edited by Stearmandriver

Andrew Crowley

I think I found out what is causing the issue in my previous post above, my Brunner yoke.

After disconnecting the yoke, the aircraft behaves as expected. So guess I need to wait for a fix from Brunner or get myself a new yoke.

13 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

Sounds like the external iFly app isn't running (little orange guy in your system tray).  Exit the sim, force close anything iFly in the task manager, restart sim and see if it's running.  If not, start it manually and then start flight.  It should auto start but it's been a little buggy.

the app is not always starting - where can I manually start it from?

26 minutes ago, WebMaximus said:

I think I found out what is causing the issue in my previous post above, my Brunner yoke.

After disconnecting the yoke, the aircraft behaves as expected. So guess I need to wait for a fix from Brunner or get myself a new yoke.

Hi, I use the Brunner yoke as well and didn't have any abnormal behaviour with the iFly max. Could it be that you use the yoke software with autopilot pitch and roll enabled? I think you will be fine after disabling.

 

12 minutes ago, mac44 said:

the app is not always starting - where can I manually start it from?

Press your Windows key on the keyboard and type 'IF' and it should show up.

Just now, wijnroks said:

Hi, I use the Brunner yoke as well and didn't have any abnormal behaviour with the iFly max. Could it be that you use the yoke software with autopilot pitch and roll enabled? I think you will be fine after disabling.

 

That's really interesting to hear and good news you've been able to use your Brunner yoke without any issues!

I did try disabling autopilot for both pitch and roll but it wasn't until I shut down CLS2Sim completely the aircraft started behaving itself.

Will play around with it some more and see if I can make it work over here as well.

Many thanks for your feedback!

4 minutes ago, WebMaximus said:

Press your Windows key on the keyboard and type 'IF' and it should show up.

strangely when I do this just get the blue iflyapp not the orange one?

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