On 10/20/2024 at 12:04 PM, Fielder said:

MSFS can be finicky about your windows display resolution being changed and then when MSFS starts to boot up a .cfg file of MSFS has another resolution recorded there which is different. Such as when in Windows Display Settings you change the scale and layout. It's a good idea to put MSFS into windowed mode before exiting MSFS. You can resize the MSFS display window as it boots and this works for me when Windows starts but I can't see it because it won't display.

Your post made me wonder -- do you think he should delete his usercfg.opt file?  I'm wondering if that would help?

It depends on which options you choose when installing the new Nvidia driver. One time I chose the full installation and all display options were changed. I had to go redo them all on all 3 of monitor screens. Changed display resolutions, colors, etc. And MSFS would not boot unless I did an Alt Enter and dragged the screen down in size to be smaller than the monitor screen, in windows mode. Then MSFS booted fine.

This happens from time to time even when not changing Nvidia drivers to me. MSFS not booting up all the way and going to a no display blank screen. It is always curable by doing this: when MSFS starts to boot, Alt Enter to windowed mode, drag the MSFS window to a smaller size than the monitor screen is, and then it boots up just fine every time. And I can then reset MSFS to full screen mode.

2 minutes ago, Mace said:

Your post made me wonder -- do you think he should delete his usercfg.opt file?  I'm wondering if that would help?

Yes, he should do that. That way MSFS will not try to boot up with the wrong display size which can cause MSFS not to boot up.

On 10/19/2024 at 5:58 PM, mattloveday1987 said:

Hi All!

I have a bit of a weird problem. MSFS works fine under NVIDIA driver 31.0.15.5244

This version number is not the standard nVidia coding, this is a Windows driver that should NOT be used.

Download and install the latest official driver for your GPU here: https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/566.03/566.03-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql.exe

After installing the nVidia driver, disable Windows from downloading driver updates:

        Search for 'View advanced system settings' and click the best match.

        The old ‘System’ control panel opens. Click the ‘Hardware’ tab, then click ‘Device Installation Settings’.

        Change the selection for 'Do you want to automatically download manufacturers' apps and custom icons....' to 'No (your device might not work as expected'

        Save the changes

On 10/24/2024 at 3:20 PM, Fielder said:

It depends on which options you choose when installing the new Nvidia driver. One time I chose the full installation and all display options were changed. I had to go redo them all on all 3 of monitor screens. Changed display resolutions, colors, etc. And MSFS would not boot unless I did an Alt Enter and dragged the screen down in size to be smaller than the monitor screen, in windows mode. Then MSFS booted fine.

This happens from time to time even when not changing Nvidia drivers to me. MSFS not booting up all the way and going to a no display blank screen. It is always curable by doing this: when MSFS starts to boot, Alt Enter to windowed mode, drag the MSFS window to a smaller size than the monitor screen is, and then it boots up just fine every time. And I can then reset MSFS to full screen mode.

FYI guys.....latest NVDIA, last two updates I had issue starting MSFS. Error both times was: "Your graphics device has encountered a problem and Microsoft Flight Simulator will exit" . Trouble is that in both cases I couldn't do absolutely nothing, just hangs. In both cases I had to re-install drivers....and after that it started working. However, same thing happen yesterday with same driver (latest).

So I am not sure if NVDIA has some issues or I have it on my side but for a year I have not had any problems. Wonder if anyone know good driver that doesn't need an update or if that is acceptable solution....Or perhaps any other advise would be appreciated.....

2 hours ago, cyyzrwy24 said:

FYI guys.....latest NVDIA, last two updates I had issue starting MSFS. Error both times was: "Your graphics device has encountered a problem and Microsoft Flight Simulator will exit" . Trouble is that in both cases I couldn't do absolutely nothing, just hangs. In both cases I had to re-install drivers....and after that it started working. However, same thing happen yesterday with same driver (latest).

So I am not sure if NVDIA has some issues or I have it on my side but for a year I have not had any problems. Wonder if anyone know good driver that doesn't need an update or if that is acceptable solution....Or perhaps any other advise would be appreciated.....

So why in the world are you putting yourself through all of this.  Not broken, don't "fix"!  Spend more time flying....

2 hours ago, cyyzrwy24 said:

FYI guys.....latest NVDIA, last two updates I had issue starting MSFS. Error both times was: "Your graphics device has encountered a problem and Microsoft Flight Simulator will exit" . Trouble is that in both cases I couldn't do absolutely nothing, just hangs. In both cases I had to re-install drivers....and after that it started working. However, same thing happen yesterday with same driver (latest).

So I am not sure if NVDIA has some issues or I have it on my side but for a year I have not had any problems. Wonder if anyone know good driver that doesn't need an update or if that is acceptable solution....Or perhaps any other advise would be appreciated.....

This same issue has been reported here months ago, and it happened to me, and the official forum leaders also mentioned this issue. The cure is to revert to an earlier driver. And then keep trying the new ones that come out later. Eventually one will work fine. Different drivers seem to prove to be the best for different people. And some people never experience the issue at all.

3 hours ago, cyyzrwy24 said:

Wonder if anyone know good driver that doesn't need an update or if that is acceptable solution....Or perhaps any other advise would be appreciated.....

I don't know anything specific or wide-spread-known-good amongst many users, but I do know what's worked for me...for me (Gigabyte OC RTX4090 underclocked) -- I had good stability with nvidia driver version 555.85, I can't recall any lockup with that one.   Now I'm running 560.94 and I have had one (1) screen lockup with it, but only one.   As you can see I am rarely on the latest driver, as Frank notes above, I want to fly, not fiddle with my drivers.   If I find one that is stable, I go with it for a long time.  Unless there is some big development like a certain driver works better with DLSS or something like that.

I'm puzzled by all the problems you guys have with the NVidia drivers. I'm always using the latest drivers as soon as they're released and never had any issues with installing or stability. The reason for this might be that I'm using NVCleanstall to update my drivers. This very handy app let's you choose which parts of the NVidia package to install and which to omit. By that, I got rid of all the completely unnecessary parts, e.g. "Quadro View", "Telemetry", "USB-C driver" etc. Usually I only install the driver itself, PhysX (since I also play other games) and HD Audio via HDMI (because of my VR headset) so there are less components that could cause trouble.

Here is a short tutorial about the basic usage of NVCleanstall:

 

I always use the latest driver straight from GFExperience download. No clean install, nothing. Always works. BUT: before I ever start MSFS after a driver update, I always clear all shaders and caches. And of course I always restart several times after doing those steps. And I do not use any MSFS cache. Never had any issue like this...

Clean install after using DDU in safe mode

Then reset Nvidia Control Panel and apply your settings again.

[Optional] Reset MSFS Graphics settings and re-apply. 

No issues here.

9 hours ago, -Belga- said:

I'm puzzled by all the problems you guys have with the NVidia drivers. I'm always using the latest drivers as soon as they're released and never had any issues with installing or stability. The reason for this might be that I'm using NVCleanstall to update my drivers. This very handy app let's you choose which parts of the NVidia package to install and which to omit. By that, I got rid of all the completely unnecessary parts, e.g. "Quadro View", "Telemetry", "USB-C driver" etc. Usually I only install the driver itself, PhysX (since I also play other games) and HD Audio via HDMI (because of my VR headset) so there are less components that could cause trouble.

Here is a short tutorial about the basic usage of NVCleanstall:

 

No reason to be puzzled at all....I've been using same for all this years, including latest NVIDIA GeForce installers. Never had any issues. It started with few Drivers back, somewhere in September, but when I searched for my problem I discovered issues were in May of this year as well and NVIDIA had official response on this topic. For me it started month ago and only "remedy" was to re-install same driver. However, yesterday even that didn't help. It took me two attempts. So I am wondering, that NVIDIA is tweaking their Drivers for other games and other performance enactments.

And of course needles to say that Drivers were installed as "clean" installation... Not a big deal, but it is annoying to fix something that you can't even run...It's weird. Let's see how long will last this time....

14 hours ago, fppilot said:

So why in the world are you putting yourself through all of this.  Not broken, don't "fix"!  Spend more time flying....

And that's exactly my point now, really....That's why I have to figure which one is "good" and keep that one....no more updates.....It's ridiculous really... Feel like a sucker.... 😀 

Well, beside optimizations for new games, updates often fix bugs or security leaks. That's reason enough for me to always install the latest drivers.