Just noticed this with todays navigraph pc client update. Haven't checked if it appears in the cockpit efb of supported ac yet.

I heard that MSFS 2024 won't be using Navigraph. I guess they are looking at a bleak future. 

Probably NG trying to add value so that people moving to 2024 don't cancel their subscriptions.

However, I'm not sure why they stopped at showing Vatsim and Ivao traffic. Why not show the traffic you have injected in your sim (your chosen injector, multiplayer...)?

 

The feature as announced has zero value to me.

3 minutes ago, mmcmah said:

Probably NG trying to add value so that people moving to 2024 don't cancel their subscriptions

This was something they announced at Expo in June, before MS announced their charts stuff.

For Vatsim users, this is huge. The biggest issue with Vatsim is trying to see what controllers are online, and what that guy on Unicom who isn't speaking is actually doing. I'd have both Charts and Vatsim Radar up.

I am in the camp that NG will provide a lot of value even in 24.

As long as PMDG and Fenix use Navigraph AIRAC, they'll keep my subscription regardless of what 2024 offers.

Though I won't be disappointed if competition drives down the cost.

7 minutes ago, BrammyH said:

For Vatsim users, this is huge. The biggest issue with Vatsim is trying to see what controllers are online, and what that guy on Unicom who isn't speaking is actually doing. I'd have both Charts and Vatsim Radar up.

Tbh I can see myself using this feature more frequently when I'm controlling, actually. Sometimes it's nice to pull up a reference plate with an aircraft position if it's an approach you don't often vector to/etc. and it's busy.

33 minutes ago, mspencer said:

Tbh I can see myself using this feature more frequently when I'm controlling, actually. Sometimes it's nice to pull up a reference plate with an aircraft position if it's an approach you don't often vector to/etc. and it's busy.

I hadn't even though of that, and it probably makes it easy to see if the pilot is doing an oopsie.

55 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

 I guess they are looking at a bleak future. 

I don't think so.  LIDO charts don't cover nearly as many airports as the Jepp data does from Navigraph.  

43 minutes ago, BrammyH said:

I hadn't even though of that, and it probably makes it easy to see if the pilot is doing an oopsie.

That too. I'd say it's another helpful situational awareness aid, since I already use it to pull all my charts while controlling, an overlay of traffic is almost cheating lol

3 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

LIDO charts don't cover nearly as many airports as the Jepp data does from Navigraph.  

But the ones the majority of people fly to certainly are covered.

19 minutes ago, Farlis said:

But the ones the majority of people fly to certainly are covered.

If you fly airliners, yes.

 

11 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

If you fly airliners, yes.

 

Yep.

Where I fly for FlightSim Economy about half the airports have procedures and all of those have Navigraph charts but none of them have LIDO.

My Navigraph subscription isn't going anywhere for the moment.

No plans to ditch Navigraph either, but will try out the the sims in built version. Which i expect to be pretty good as WT have developed it.

So what's the diff between LIDO and Jepp?

8 minutes ago, MikeH99 said:

So what's the diff between LIDO and Jepp?

As has been repeated several times in this thread, a crucial difference is the coverage. Jeppesen should cover more smaller airports where LIDO customers don't operate, so it is particularly interesting for general and business aviation, even if there are LIDO customers among business jet operators. The design, however, falls into the category of a matter of taste. I personally find the colored LIDO charts clearer, especially the airport and taxi charts are superior imho. On the other hand, the briefing strip in Jeppesen is also well done. In terms of information content, both solutions should be equivalent, but if I am not mistaken, with Jeppesen you have to take the threshold altitude from the airport chart, while LIDO sensibly presents it on the approach chart. But these are really minor details. I don't see me cancelling my Navigraph subscription, as I mainly use it on Ipad and find it to be a well crafted navigation solution. But time will tell...