So apparently MSFS 2024 will have an offline mode.

That is coming with the marketplace. You'll be able to download assets directly to your PC and manage them from there, otherwise they are cloud based unless disabled outright.
It's a bit frustrating as it feels it could have shipped with the package manager we have now. Just need to give them time to sort it.
Appreciate it's easy enough for me to be dismissive as the sim is running really well for me without any of the issues people have been experiencing and having that offline mode from the start would have saved so many headaches.

1 hour ago, Mace said:

I think a better option would be to allow local download of selected areas.  That is what the poll should be about

Is this not how it is actually designed? I think once the Marketplace is opened we will be able to download whatever aircraft and scenery we want to our local drive, which should give us more control and free us from some of these issues around streaming everything. I think the problem was the decision, seeming made under pressure from third-party developers, to delay the Marketplace, and hence these features. What I whish Asobo would do immediately is open the Marketplace and provide this functionality. If an add-on is not compatible or has not been verified as compatible just put a red banner on it that says "Not Yet Compatible."

7 hours ago, G-RFRY said:

Game Pass users cannot download tons of data, and without MS Game Pass monthly income to fund the studios you not going to get investment.

 

Yup and the fact that the Xbox is limited in overall HDD space.

 

Not likely the casual gamer is going to install 500gig plus of data just to play this...

I really hope it will be offline too. Even with the fastest possible internet here (I upgraded to 5 Mbit a month ago) I have significant problems!

 

Agreed. Give us the option to download MANY of our flight plan's assets ahead of time. Streamed gaming is not the solution.

I flew 2020 most of the day yesterday and it was smooth and its usual stunning self.  I think this weekend will be another major test as I would imagine more people sim on the weekends than on weekdays.

Edited November 23, 20241 yr by jspilot

Microsoft is an entrerprise who is selling the cloud to other enterprises, so Asobo will get what they offer. And will trend to full cloud stream in every sim iteration.

17 hours ago, cobalt said:

MSFS2020 is not offline in its normal mode of operation. On the contrary, it was designed from the start to use satellite-streamed real-world scenery, and this is its defining feature. I can understand why this is a problem for some simmers (for example, those living in areas with poor internet service), and they may be better off using an offline alternative like X-plane. But folks, this ship has sailed -- we are in a new era and I can't imagine ever going back. I suspect that most who have experienced the real-world scenery in MSFS2020 are hooked on it (I know I am), and for the foreseeable future the only way to have this is via data streaming from the cloud. Nobody today is going to own a home computer that can accommodate the petabytes of data would be required to represent the real world in high detail. Making MSFS2024 offline -- reverting to computer-drawn artificial scenery a la FSX or FS9 -- would be an irrational step backward and is not a realistic option. 

Hi,

 

Don't have poor internet service. My Ping is 0.17ms my up and download speeds are well over 900. It's their servers that are unable to supply the data as fast as we need it! I dumped them  the second found out it's 100% streaming.

3 minutes ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

Don't have poor internet service. My Ping is 0.17ms my up and download speeds are well over 900. It's their servers that are unable to supply the data as fast as we need it! I dumped them  the second found out it's 100% streaming.

I think you may have judged the results in the first couple of days of release when there were both technical issues on Asobo's end and strong demand from simmers and gamers and every review site out there. Once things calmed down, the stream improved significantly. I have by current standards a poor internet connection with a max download of 50 Mb/s, and usually it does not go over 40 to 45, and I have had a good quality experience the past 2 days.  It is not perfect yet, it is somewhat inconsistent, but good progress is being made and I think it will likely get there. I wanted to share this in case there are others with poor internet connections; it is possible to run the sim.

 

53 minutes ago, Cognita said:

I think you may have judged the results in the first couple of days of release when there were both technical issues on Asobo's end and strong demand from simmers and gamers and every review site out there. Once things calmed down, the stream improved significantly. I have by current standards a poor internet connection with a max download of 50 Mb/s, and usually it does not go over 40 to 45, and I have had a good quality experience the past 2 days.  It is not perfect yet, it is somewhat inconsistent, but good progress is being made and I think it will likely get there. I wanted to share this in case there are others with poor internet connections; it is possible to run the sim.

 

That doesn't explain why the alpha test went off without a hitch! It was the severe demand on the servers, don't be surprised if the same connect or performance issues pop up  during Christmas. 

Never going to happen!

Quit wasting your time!

What kind of hit show is MS running?  I'm trying to download an update for 2020 via content manager and I'm not even getting 1 Mbit/s on a 50Mbit/s connection.  Can these clowns be taken to court under false advertising and general fraud?

20 hours ago, sloppysmusic said:

There's a petition on the official forums. 

Can we start one to get rid of the asobo 'not' top team, too.  We've suffered 4 years of them and they don't seem to be getting any better.

I don't own FS2024 yet, but i have a question regarding everything in the sim being cloud-based. I have a pretty unstable internet connection, it often cuts out for no reason at all. Sometimes for upwards of 10 minutes. What would happen if for example, it went down mid-flight? Is that the end of the flight or can the sim recover easily? I never had a problem with it in FS2020, everything always recovered quickly. 

3 minutes ago, james42 said:

I don't own FS2024 yet, but i have a question regarding everything in the sim being cloud-based. I have a pretty unstable internet connection, it often cuts out for no reason at all. Sometimes for upwards of 10 minutes. What would happen if for example, it went down mid-flight? Is that the end of the flight or can the sim recover easily? I never had a problem with it in FS2020, everything always recovered quickly. 

I think the the same thing as in 2020, you will get a disconnect notification and no new streamed assets will be added.

I think once we can download things that the demand for streaming will decrease a great deal. Once we have our aircraft, world updates and airports where we frequently fly locally stored on our drives then the streaming demand will lessen. 

Experience in the first day or two was not great but neither is it reflective of how things will be.