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Overexposed Clouds is Doing my Head In!

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2 hours ago, Adamski_NZ said:

I often make the same mistake ... it's usercfg.opt (goodness knows what the logic of that is!)

Thank you, Adamski_NZ!

I'll see it right away!

Greetings

 

 

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  • robert young
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    I noticed the white-out clouds (and often scenery) in the very first youtube uploads of FS2024. I kept thinking why are these people saying it is so much better than FS2020, when all I see is a terrib

  • 1st fltsimguy
    1st fltsimguy

    I am 100% behind you on this one...it drives me nuts, ruins what should be a good flying experience...it's pretty bad when flying outside the plane is better than in the cockpit. Xp12 also has th

  • @Rocky_53 ... I totally agree. I've always hated the eye adaptation "feature" with a vengeance. I accept that it's a complex problem (that our eyes are better at it than any hardware) but other sims d

2 hours ago, Bunchy said:

Are you using HDR? If so, try without it and see if that works. I'm using HDR and see the same as you.

Back in FS2020, I had to alt-enter to windowed mode and then alt enter back to full screen for the HDR function to kick in. In FS2024, I'm seeing the same as you with HDR enabled. 

Have you used the Microsoft HDR calibration app?  

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2 hours ago, sloppysmusic said:

Same with cockpit lighting. I have to keep adjusting it so it's not too bright or too dark during the flight. 

Yes, something is going on around a certain time of day as I have noticed it flying around dusk.  There is a point the interior lights get very bright and bloomy, seems it is around when sun goes below horizon.  I have to adjust all lights but then several minutes later they are all of a sudden very dim.

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5 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I have no problems with cloud/cockpit brightness on my HDR monitor. However, I don't have problems when I turn HDR off to create a video/screen shot.

 Is your monitor calibrated?  

Could you post some inside/outside images of clouds from your monitor to compare with those at the beginning of this topic. If the problem was just monitor calibration it would not account for the massive differences between the two views.

John B

2 hours ago, Biggles2010 said:

Could you post some inside/outside images of clouds from your monitor to compare with those at the beginning of this topic. If the problem was just monitor calibration it would not account for the massive differences between the two views.

Vision jet inside and out.  No hint of over exposure or dark cockpit.

 

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Hey guys, it's sorted! :biggrin: As was suggested earlier, I tried HDR mode on the monitor and that has cured the issue 95%! The strange thing is, yesterday, I tried all manner of things including switching on and off HDR, but for some reason it didn't make any difference. Today, I decided to reset the monitor to factory settings, fly without REX Atmos, which TBH, I think may have had a small role in things, only a hunch. So since starting from scratch, I seem to have more or less cured the issue. The exposure change seems to still be there, but it's very small, certainly a million miles from how it has been recently. Thanks to all for the input, much appreciated.

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6 minutes ago, Rocky_53 said:

I tried HDR mode on the monitor

Don't forget to use the Microsoft HDR Calibration Tool to calibrate your HDR mode to your monitor,

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19 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Don't forget to use the Microsoft HDR Calibration Tool to calibrate your HDR mode to your monitor,

It mentions Win11... is it for Win10 also?  No sweat. Got info from ChatGPT. Cheers.

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On 12/13/2024 at 4:09 PM, Rocky_53 said:

Hey guys, it's sorted! :biggrin: As was suggested earlier, I tried HDR mode on the monitor and that has cured the issue 95%!

Screenshots are captured internally in the simulator and do not depend at all on the quality of the monitor or its calibration.

Your shots.....

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.... show that FS has a graphical problem of overexposure.
When you captured these shots it is absolutely indifferent whether your monitor was On or Off, calibrated or uncalibrated, in color or black and white, etc etc.

In whatever condition your monitor was the shots would appear to us readers exactly identical as we see them above, so it is highly unlikely (I would say impossible) that you solved the problem by "calibrating the monitor".
If while you are flying with FS you turn Off the monitor completely, and then press the PRINT button, the capture of the simulator will happen in any case and you will not get a "black photo" because you had the monitor Off.
Monitor and screenshot capture are like apples and pears, they are two different things, not dependent on each other.

Surely the hyper exposure problem was due to something else, perhaps to some addon that you were using before, or to some simulator setting.

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On 12/13/2024 at 11:18 AM, MrBitstFlyer said:

Have you used the Microsoft HDR calibration app?  

Oh yes, many times

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On 12/12/2024 at 11:33 PM, jrw4 said:

Do the HDR images look any different from the standard ones? In my case, I recall that various buttons had to be pressed on the monitor controls, and settings need to be adjusted in the Windows systems pages, before the HDR suddenly appeared. Your photos have the characteristic look of blown out highlights that would seem to be associated with limited dynamic range. Of course, it's virtually impossible to successfully display HDR images on forums, etc. It's a process that breaks if any step in the posting and viewing drop from HDR to SDR.

Good luck.

Hi John, sure, the HDR made a massive difference! Sure, their is still a shifting of exposure as explained in my post, but the effect is far less pronounced and more tolerable.

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14 hours ago, efis007 said:

Screenshots are captured internally in the simulator and do not depend at all on the quality of the monitor or its calibration.

Your shots.....

1.jpg

2.jpg

.... show that FS has a graphical problem of overexposure.
When you captured these shots it is absolutely indifferent whether your monitor was On or Off, calibrated or uncalibrated, in color or black and white, etc etc.

In whatever condition your monitor was the shots would appear to us readers exactly identical as we see them above, so it is highly unlikely (I would say impossible) that you solved the problem by "calibrating the monitor".
If while you are flying with FS you turn Off the monitor completely, and then press the PRINT button, the capture of the simulator will happen in any case and you will not get a "black photo" because you had the monitor Off.
Monitor and screenshot capture are like apples and pears, they are two different things, not dependent on each other.

Surely the hyper exposure problem was due to something else, perhaps to some addon that you were using before, or to some simulator setting.

Sure, but as I mentioned above, althought he eye adaption is still there, it is far less noticeable, due to the HDR being activated.

Howard
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I've always been puzzled as to why ASOBO omitted basic brightness and contrast adjustment for the sim.

There are a myriad different monitors being used and so we see complaints of too bright/blown or too dark from different users.

Basic controls that would allow some usefull control of the visual presentation, really weird that ithey are not available

7 minutes ago, Rusty Spanner said:

I've always been puzzled as to why ASOBO omitted basic brightness and contrast adjustment for the sim.

Maybe they don't play other games? Or they would have had the set max darkness and lightness adjustment that's the FIRST screen that comes up after the logos on almost every game released this century. 

Russell Gough

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1 hour ago, Rusty Spanner said:

I've always been puzzled as to why ASOBO omitted basic brightness and contrast adjustment for the sim.

There are a myriad different monitors being used and so we see complaints of too bright/blown or too dark from different users.

Basic controls that would allow some usefull control of the visual presentation, really weird that ithey are not available

No issue if the display is calibrated.

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