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Trying Fenix A320 after 15 years flying PMDG 737

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12 hours ago, Bdub22 said:

if you can stomach him and the pompous and over-the-top entitlement attitude he has

Good grief, where did this comment come from?  I find his videos informative and interesting.

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  • ….yeah, if you can stomach him and the pompous and over-the-top entitlement attitude he has. Also, how he loves to find and produce flight sim drama. There are way better flight sim YouTubers out ther

  • Never really understood this type of comment. Once autopilot is engaged, both airbus and boeing will take you from A to B with little intervention.   

  • If you know the PMDG then you also know that airliners are not the type of aircraft where you "just go".   Just plan a flight in Simbrief, import it into the EFB, go into the Weights Tab on

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1 hour ago, vonmar said:

Which hardware throttle and calibration do you use for PMDG and A320?

Using the Honeycomb A and B

14 minutes ago, Huascar said:

Managed to program a flight and flying now but when I used author throttle the master caution warning activates and I have to disengage A/T. What am I doing wrong?

Quick guess or two.  Is aircraft clean? (flaps/slats fully retracted).  Is throttle in “climb” and are you flying off of FMS or Speed Window?  All could contribute/cause.  Can’t say more without better context.  Again, good luck. You’ll get it I’m sure.

-B

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1 minute ago, Huascar said:

Using the Honeycomb A and B

How did you calibrate it for te A320?

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

18 minutes ago, btacon said:

My 2 cents to all of this. I’ve have flown “sim” busses and Boeings for well over a decade myself.  I concur with all you’ve said Jonathan.  Not better worse, just different and basically same.  Good luck to OP and I find myself flying about 60% Bus and 40% Boeing these days.

=B

 

I was probably the same as the OP until early this year. 15 years+ of Boeings, got the Fenix and now probably 60%/40% in favour of the Airbus.

With the superb integration for the tablet I can get the Fenix ready much quicker than the Boeings, although making changes to the plan / flight I still find the Boeing easier.

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16 minutes ago, btacon said:

Quick guess or two.  Is aircraft clean? (flaps/slats fully retracted).  Is throttle in “climb” and are you flying off of FMS or Speed Window?  All could contribute/cause.  Can’t say more without better context.  Again, good luck. You’ll get it I’m sure.

The issue was I did not press throttle in climb. 

I need to map the throttle climb button to the proper key in settings. What should key should I select?

I am getting there guys! It's a fun little plane. One thing I noticed is there is a lot of automation.  You have very little control over the aircraft. However, I think I like it. 

I need to map my controllers which will suck.

 

 

1 minute ago, Huascar said:

 

 One thing I noticed is there is a lot of automation.  You have very little control over the aircraft.

That was the issue that got me back to flying the Boeings. I felt more like a passenger in the Airbus, compared to being a pilot in the Boeing. YMMV. 

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4 minutes ago, Huascar said:

The issue was I did not press throttle in climb. 

I need to map the throttle climb button to the proper key in settings. What should key should I select?

I am getting there guys! It's a fun little plane. One thing I noticed is there is a lot of automation.  You have very little control over the aircraft. However, I think I like it. 

I need to map my controllers which will suck.

 

 

I use Thrustmaster TCA for FSLabs A320 (P3D 4/5) and FlyByWire A320 (MSFS2020) but it needs calibrating for the two throttles to work properly.

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

15 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

That was the issue that got me back to flying the Boeings. I felt more like a passenger in the Airbus, compared to being a pilot in the Boeing. YMMV. 

Never really understood this type of comment. Once autopilot is engaged, both airbus and boeing will take you from A to B with little intervention. 

 

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5 minutes ago, rickjake said:

Never really understood this type of comment. Once autopilot is engaged, both airbus and boeing will take you from A to B with little intervention. 

 

I guess you missed. YMMV in my comment. 

 

 

 

54 minutes ago, Huascar said:

You have very little control over the aircraft

Not quite. You have full control over the airbus, it just does things differently. You can easily fly the plane in manual mode - yes you don’t trim, but that’s a difference in philosophy more than anything else. 
 

Spend some time getting into it. You may find you prefer the Boeing old school style where you have to manually set cabin pressure (737) but I personally prefer the Airbus way. Especially the ECAM - on the Boeing it’s just longer. This is just personal preference though, both are extremely high fidelity simulations and are loads of fun. 

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59 minutes ago, Huascar said:

I need to map the throttle climb button to the proper key in settings. What should key should I select?

It's not a button. It's a throttle detend.

Make sure you calibrate the throttles properly in the Fenix MCDU. Also, if you are using the Honeycomb Bravom follow these steps to set up the binding.

https://kb.fenixsim.com/honeycomb-bravo-setup

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Still too early to make an assessment but thus far I have observed the following:

The FMC is the PMDG is a lot more practical to use. I can easily delete a continuity by simply selecting the leg below it and entering it on the discontinuity line  (done).

On the performance page, I select the flap level and the V1/V2 speeds are automatically selected (done)

On the main panel, I can select the rate of climb/descend and the computer doesn't argue with me. 

Separately, uploading Simbrief is very easy. One click and everything is there. 

All to say, I find the automation in the Airbus a bit annoying. If you diviate from the computer, you start having warnings.

With that said, I still think Fenix A320 is well put together and intelligent. I will continue to fly it but it will take time to get used to it.  We tend to be biased towards the things we understand better, and that explains my more favorable view of the PMDG. 

Both planes look nice, but the panel of the PMDG is far more superior.

Thanks to all you for helping me fly the Fenix. 

1 hour ago, Huascar said:

I can easily delete a continuity by simply selecting the leg below it and entering it on the discontinuity line  (done).

In the Airbus you just select the discontinuity itself and delete it.

9 minutes ago, Farlis said:

In the Airbus you just select the discontinuity itself and delete it.

Not always, it depends on what is above it. 

 

 

 

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